Re-examing Oklahoma

[ChumpDumper]

Good job debunking your own conspiracy, Dan.

[Nbadan]

A security photo from a nearby building showing the Ryder truck approaching the Murrah Federal building.

[Nbadan]

McVey's attorney thought McVey was the 'fall guy' to a larger conspiracy, but McVey didn't want his defense team to present that defense...

In his trial, whose venue had been moved from Oklahoma City to Denver, Colorado, McVeigh was represented by a defense counsel team of six principal attorneys led by Stephen Jones.[48] McVeigh wanted Jones to present a "necessity defense", that his bombing was intended to prevent future "crimes" by the government, such as the Waco and Ruby Ridge incidents. Jones, certain this approach would fail, refused to present it. He believed McVeigh was the self-sacrificial "fall guy" for a larger conspiracy. However, Judge Matsch ruled that the evidence supporting the larger conspiracy was insufficiently substantial to be admitted. Jones then attempted to raise reasonable doubt through arguing that no one had seen McVeigh near the scene of the crime; that the investigation into the bombing lasted a mere two weeks; and that the bombing could not have been accomplished by merely two men, but by a larger conspiracy of people that McVeigh was hiding. The defense called a mere 25 witnesses, all in the span of one week, including Dr. Frederic Whitehurst, whose expert testimony demonstrated that the FBI's sloppiness might have contributed to contaminated evidence.

[Yonivore]

A security photo from a nearby building showing the Ryder truck approaching the Murrah Federal building.

And? Isn't this something we know?

[Nbadan]

that's the one thing that always disturbed me about this case. If they were white-supremacist why was Nichols married to a Phillapino Woman? Isn't that a big KKK no no?

Interesting history there too...

Nichols was twice married, first to Lana Padilla then to Marife Torres. Nichols was introduced to the latter woman, who hails from Cebu City in the Philippines, by Paradise Shelton Tours, of Scottsdale, Arizona. She was 17 at the time of their 1991 marriage.

Marife Torres was the mother of an infant son when she married Nichols. The child suffocated in a plastic bag while the couple was residing at the Nichols family farm in Michigan. The November 22, 1993 death shortly followed the birth of a son fathered by Nichols. Nichols and his wife frequently visited the Philippines, where she was working on a degree in physical therapy. He sometimes travelled to the Philippines alone, while she remained in Kansas.

Cebu City at the time was a reputed base for several militant organizations, including Liberation Army of the Philippines, the Communist Huk, and the Al-Qaida affiliate Abu Sayyaf. Stephen Jones, the trial attorney who first represented Tim McVeigh, cited evidence of a meeting in Davao City, in Mindanao in 1992 or 1993, when Yousef members, Abdul Hakim Murad, Wali Khan Amin Shah and a "farmer" met to discuss the Oklahoma bombing. Jones said the FBI was aware of the meeting.

Nichols had left a cryptic note for his first wife during one of his many visits to the Philippines. Upon returning from one visit to learn that she had prematurely opened a letter instructing her what to do in the event of his death, he made a series of telephone calls to a Cebu City boarding house. Witnesses, including Marife's brother said the boarding house is often used by residents from Mindanao. Other witnesses said Nichols may have been trying to reach his wife during the numerous repeated 30-second telephone calls.

From wikipedia link above..

[Nbadan]

Aryan Army connection?

Federal prosecutors alleged McVeigh and Nichols funded the Oklahoma City bombing attack with USD $60,000 they netted during a robbery of the home of gun dealer Roger Moore (not the actor).

In the days before Nichols' state trial was set to begin, an Associated Press article cited FBI agents expressing outrage that they had not been shown evidence that Moore's license, or a fake license resembling his, was seized from the MidWest Bank Robbers. The gang of Aryan Republican Army affiliated robbers were reported to have visited Elohim City during the same days that McVeigh was alleged to have visited the private village in northern Arkansas. Terry Nichols has told investigators he did not rob Roger Moore; in fact he contends Moore gave him the weapons, cash and precious stones.

[ggoose25]

i dont know if i buy this conspiracy. less than a month ago, the boston pd and bomb squad thought these were bombs:




So i can see how in the wake of a huge explosion a mistake can be made on whether there were additional bombs or not

[Nbadan]

Look at the first picture again.

Is that McVey's get-away car on the bottom left?

[Yonivore]

Look at the first picture again.

Is that McVey's get-away car on the bottom left?

I don't know, is it?

[Guru of Nothing]

that's the one thing that always disturbed me about this case. If they were white-supremacist why was Nichols married to a Phillapino Woman? Isn't that a big KKK no no?

Need I say more.