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So is Bruce really hurting now with his back? He hasn't sat a game out yet has he?
A properly medicated Ron Artest?
So is Bruce really hurting now with his back? He hasn't sat a game out yet has he?
Bruce has already lost a step or 2 on defense. I was at the game in SA when we played LA before the rodeo roadtrip. I realize Kobe is one of the best offensive players in the league, but that was the worst I've ever seen Bruce play him. He was sorta keeping up with him, but he wasn't contesting any of his shots. He still has some great defensive games, but he's not the lock-down defender that he once was. His offense is horrible this season, and I believe that's because he has to work even harder on defense to keep up, so he lost whatever little shooting touch it was that he had in seasons before. I would not be suprised if he comes off the bench next year and plays significantly fewer minutes. It's been said before, and I believe it, that defense can be taught to almost anyone. It just takes someone without an ego who understands that role and who isn't concerned about getting touches on offense. If Elson improves his interior defense, that would allow us to break in someone new as a perimeter defender so Duncan and Elson could erase any mistakes made outside.
i used to (before the trade deadline, when I really wanted maggette) be huge bowen detractor. but he is starting to grow on me, out on the floor, he never does anything wrong, he hustles, can still hit the open three, and works well on a team where the 3 stars all need to control the ball for a good portion of the shot clock to do their thing.
basically, i didn't like him when i thought our 3 stars needed more help to win it all, and he was the weakest link. now, gino and duncan are playing much better and bowen once again seems more than adequate as a role player.
1.- This made me laugh.
2.- I'm not sure I share your confindence in modern pharmacology.
3.- You do have a point.
That's what they are trying to do with White.
White as all the physical tools (length and quickness) to be a great defender in the league.
I was pretty hyped when White fell to them, but have soured. I know they're trying hard to get a Bowen replacement, but was amazed they didn't get anything done last summer. Maybe I'm guilty of looking at all the other pretty, shiny things lying around, but I'd be surprised White ever sees much time as a Spur.
How many times have you seen him play?
Bruce Bowen = Dirty & Overrated
No such thing.
How arew the Lakers doing these days?
I'd love Nocioni to become a Spur (for obvious reasons) but he needs to learn D. He misses to many rotations (I think this is the reason he lost his starting job).
On the positive, he has no problem sacrificing his body. He takes more charges than Manu
I'd like to keep White through training camp, especially after reading the draft thread where no one said immediate help could be found at #28. He's shown signs of being a good, versatile perimeter defender. His offense was always completely overrated because of his dunking.
Bowen was/is an integral part of our championship runs. I hope he retires a Spur and we retire his number.
There's somebody that Bruce cannot guard-----Father Time. Within the next two years, Bruce might have to settle for a role similar to Lindsey Hunter's at Detroit, minus the prohibited drugs.
bull ing .He's on a knife edge in my mind. Pop has to seriously weigh whether his shot will recover because right now he's hurting the team in spots. I think Pop has realized this somewhat and has cut down his minutes. If Bowen isn't hitting from long range then he can definitely be a liability regardless of his defense.
There was this same BS talk back in 01 02 when he first came and it was just as much bull then too.
Even if Bowen's shots not falling, look at how he did last night when ON Martin.
martin scored the majority, or all of his points when someone else was guarding him.
So this Bowen sucks arguement is horse to the max.
Do people not understand that the "Bowen replacement" and the "long 3/small ball 4" are two different players?
White can be the answer for the "Bowen replacement" - An athletic, defense-oriented player that can guard/play the 2 and 3 spot.
He is not, however, the answer as the Long 3/Small Ball 4.....a la Ryan Gomes, etc.
The Spurs should look for that player in the draft (Green, Thornton, Nichols, Dudley, Terry), though it will be interesting to see if any of them are available or worth the gamble.
Well, they can be the same player. If that player is a 6'9/6'10 small forward who is quick enough to guard smaller players, can step out on the perimeter and score, can rebound, and isn't afraid to go down low in the post in a small ball lineup.Do people not understand that the "Bowen replacement" and the "long 3/small ball 4" are two different players?
But that player wouldn't be White - too short.
Overworked, overpenalized, overlooked, overachieving, overanxious, overattentive, overbearing, overly self-critical, overlytrusted, yeah, Bowen, I mean the dude is ssooo over.....
Have I said that White was a "long 3/small ball 4" ?
No sorry, I just clicked on your post to reference, then went a different direction.
Don't you think hedo turkoglu was that 3 the spurs coveted long and do it all type but he messed up badly and spurs lost faith in him...then we have this scout who messed with nocioni drafting..at the time i thought firing him was excessive but now we can see how his error hampered us....
I'm sure we can find someone useful next year maybe a luke walton or a travis outlaw with a little chance..
But for now it's all for the play-off and championship and bruce or not bruce i feel good....
What player within the Spurs' $$ range/draft range has the ability to guard/play 3 positions on the floor? Sorry Kori, but I don't see many players with that ability.
He's never been a lockdown defender on guys like Kobe or Dirk or McGrady (nobody is). Kobe has had some pretty big games on him in the past. What Bruce does is make him work hard enough to get his 35 points that they don't have the legs to take over in the last 5 minutes.
Sequ is right in that aspect. Bruce is overrated if he get labeled as a lockdown perimeter guy. There is no such thing.
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