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    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    Now heres my question, theres these tournys Kori you, LJ, Kris and his other half go to, you win money at them, whats the difference between them and this.

    Winning real money every hand, as opposed to having all the chips and winning a certain amount?

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    Now heres my question, theres these tournys Kori you, LJ, Kris and his other half go to, you win money at them, whats the difference between them and this.

    Winning real money every hand, as opposed to having all the chips and winning a certain amount?
    Are you talking about tourneys at bars, currently?

    The difference is we don't pay to play in them. They are free to enter and then there's a "prize" for winning from the establishment.

    They don't consider that gambling.

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    I don't imagine that the profits or taxes from a casino would go towards building roads jackass.
    It should.

    WTF does it fund? The bottomless brokenpit that is education?

    You have a need for a highway, you propose casinos for added tax revenue, said revenue could fund highways.

    What am I missing?

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    Are you talking about tourneys at bars, currently?

    The difference is we don't pay to play in them. They are free to enter and then there's a "prize" for winning from the establishment.

    They don't consider that gambling.

    Thanks, i apologize for the dumb question.

    I guess a charity tourny, where you pay to enter, ALL the money id assume has to go to the chairty.


    I apologize, Ive never played in the said tournys in SA.

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    Thanks, i apologize for the dumb question.

    I guess a charity tourny, where you pay to enter, ALL the money id assume has to go to the chairty.


    I apologize, Ive never played in the said tournys in SA.
    I've never played in a charity tournament. But bar poker that we play in sometimes works like I said. You go there, sign up on a list and play. You don't pay anything. Then the winners (and sometimes the 2nd/3rd place) get a prize.

    There's organization that run the tournaments at different bars.

    http://www.lovemypoker.com/default.cfm

    http://barpoker.com/

    Sometimes the prize is $50, sometimes $100+, sometimes a gift certificate to the place. Sometimes you just ac ulate points and when if you get enough, you go to a bigger monthly tourney, etc.

    It's usually between 40-100 people playing in each tournament.

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    I can't imagine that Vegas or the Indian reservations are happy about this.

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    There is no difference. Manny would lose his garage games just like he would lose at a legalized casino.

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    I play holdem tourneys with 8-25 people every other week and someone different wins every time.

    I was in Ruidoso two weeks ago and some old man who could barely move was schooling the whole table. I saw a dude win 12K that had never won before. It's all about luck.

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    The point of this bill is smart... Why in the should Texans support Louisiana, Oklahoma and New Mexico? Those casinos would be down the tubes if Texas jumped on the casino board.. It would be over...

    As for internet gambling, you can blame Vegas for that.

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    Louisiana is also funding part of the New Orleans Saints.. , this might collapse the whole thing and they could move to San Antonio.

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    Charity Tournaments are illegal in Texas at this time, Tpark.

    And there is no way this will ever fund roads. You're insane if people are going to voet casinos in to fund anything other than education. As for Toll Roads - if you want to use the road then pay for it. Isn't that the way you usually want things anyhow?

    Any poker game where there is no charge to play is legal in Texas at a private establishment. In otherwords as long as there is no rake it is legal at this time. Charity tournaments are considred raked, thats why they are illegal.

    Sequ, I've never walked into a real casino and left with less money than I came with.

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    The point of this bill is smart... Why in the should Texans support Louisiana, Oklahoma and New Mexico? Those casinos would be down the tubes if Texas jumped on the casino board.. It would be over...

    As for internet gambling, you can blame Vegas for that.
    Indeed. Every time me and coworkers go to Shreveport, 90% of the cars in the parking lot have Texas plates.

    It's the same in Oklahoma.

    Between the tech and natural gas industry in Dallas and the oil industry in Houston, there'd be a lot of money out there for the casinos to pull in.

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    I don't know if you guys are following this lately, but this week there have been public hearings in Austin about the poker bill.

    Here's a good blog that recaps what is going on:

    http://pokerplayersalliance.wordpres...-in-austin-tx/

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    If they don't pass the casino bill but pass the "charity" bill it would probably be set up a lot like the bingo halls now. The charity wouldn't actually have to run it, but the poker hall would have to give 40% of the profit to the selected charity.

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    Since the Lottery is almost making no money due to lack of interest the last few years, Texas is looking for other means of revenue.

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    Wow....legal casinos and Texas Hold'em poker in Texas would be fantastic.

    No one is going to stop people from gambling, so we might as well keep it in Texas.

    Woo hoo, I'd love to see some beautiful casinos built....not like the ones in Oklahoma though.

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    If anyone here is really interested in this happening please give money to the PPA. Having a strong lobby who has enough money to do everything they need to do is essential to getting these bills passed and having adequate representation in any legislative process.

    PPA members were also invited to speak in front of the legislature during hte hearings this past Tuesday so it gives you an avenue to express your views a bit more loudly.

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    I would be happy with the charity games. I hate casinos because of the cig smoke. Every time my parents go to Louisiana to gamble they see someone from Texas they know. Hopefully this would keep Texan money in Texas.

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    Manny's chode just shattered into a million bits and peices

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    Dear Texas PPA Member:

    I had a great couple of days in Austin this week testifying on behalf of Poker Player Alliance members in Texas and doing publicity with the Texas Poker PAC to pass the Texas Poker Act (HB 3186). Our committee hearing went extremely well. Our witness list included Lyle Berman of the World Poker Tour, Erick Lindgren, Clonie Gowen, Crandall Addington and several others. I want to thank those members who took the time to call, write or attend. We are winning but I need your help now! Please contact your State Representative today and tell them that you are in favor of the Texas Poker Act, HB 3186 by Representative Menendez and you want them to vote for it. We need everybody to call and email immediately, so that we can move this bill quickly.


    Click here to find out who your representative is and how to contact them by phone or e-mail. I would suggest that you contact their Austin office if possible: http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/welcome.php

    Along with calls, please email them as well. Here is a message you can cut and paste if you would like:

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    Dear Representative,

    I am a Texas poker player and voter. Please support HB 3186, The Texas Poker Act by Jose Menendez. This legislation will bring great economic benefit to the state of Texas, as well as make poker safe and regulated in Texas. Please help bring Texas Hold'em back home to Texas.

    Thanks you for your support,

    Your Name Here

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    This is very important. Please contact your State Representative TODAY. If it is the weekend leave a message. Call back again on Tuesday too! We want to flood offices with overwhelming support for this bill.

    Thank you for your commitment to safe legal poker in Texas.

    Also please click here to sign up for our chat with Senator Alfonse D'Amato on Thursday, April 12 at 3:00 pm Eastern Time.

    Regards,

    Michael Bolcerek
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    I know this is an oooolllllddddd post but has anyone heard anything lately about this. This would be awesome if it gets passed. I play at this indian casino in El Paso when we're visiting family and they used to host freeroll tournaments and once people busted out they would play for cash under the table. Now the casino offers buy-in tournaments.The locals tell me that the casino found a loop-hole or something that allows them to do this. Just wondering if that was related to this Bill.

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    As much as this is needed in Texas, I would bet against it ever happening. There are strong lobbyists that are funded by louisiana and Las Vegas. It can no longer be blamed on the "southern baptist". Big business speaks!

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    It did not pass.

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