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    I think there's really only one player who gives the Spurs the offensive and defensive versatility at the 4 position they need to beat the Dallas Mavericks. And not only do I think that, Pop does too.

    who?

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    Pop specifically HASN'T played Elson on Dirk since he was effective back in the first game, so I'm thinking Pop is going to throw a lot of Elson at Dirk, with a little Horry, Bowen and Finley mixed in.

    CIA moves...

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    You mix it up: Some Bruce, when JoHo is sitting, some Elson, some Fab.
    plus you double from different places and show hard off the screens. Pop might even give Bonner some turns.

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    Finley obviously, and I kinda agree with him.

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    Finley obviously, and I kinda agree with him.
    That was sarcasm. Finley no, Elson, Bonner, Rob yes

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    Finley didn't work out well last year so I doubt its gonna happen.

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    Pop specifically HASN'T played Elson on Dirk since he was effective back in the first game, so I'm thinking Pop is going to throw a lot of Elson at Dirk, with a little Horry, Bowen and Finley mixed in.

    CIA moves...
    I like dat!

    Length bothers Dirk. Bowen also knows where Dirk likes to hold the ball.

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    "Elson's our only choice really"

    He's a klutz, like Fabricio. Way too many defensive stands end in those two guys fouling stupidly.

    If they could actually play defense and rebound as thoroughly as they foul, one could try to live with the fouls.

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    Elson seems to play better, when the compe ion is raised.

    Game 1 vs Mavericks.

    Vs the Pistons.

    Oberto same way.

    Im confident they can be solid.

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    Fran Elson is the ultimate utility player: his 5&5 belie the fact that he only comes to play when he judges the opposition worthy of his best.

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    Pop specifically HASN'T played Elson on Dirk since he was effective back in the first game, so I'm thinking Pop is going to throw a lot of Elson at Dirk, with a little Horry, Bowen and Finley mixed in.

    CIA moves...
    I noticed this too, though it was said it was because on injuries. I think that he is hold his cards close to his vest.

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    Dirk eventually will have to do more than shoot jump shots. When he gets inside the paint, Tim can guard him. Right now he's relying on jump shots, he's an exceptionally good shooter, but as he learned last year in the Finals, those stop falling once things tighten up. They can guard and stop everyone else. Dirk's shots won't always fall. So nothing too much to worry about.

    The Spurs have played the Mavs better than any other team in the NBA this year. The question isn't whether or not the Mavericks are better than the Spurs, it's how much better than the Spurs are they? About one jump shot better, to be honest. If you watch and pay attention to the games between the two, ignoring their 20 game streaks against everyone else, it wouldn't take much at all for the Spurs to win.

    Be ready.

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    elson. of course elson is not going to stop dirk, just don't play small ball. let dirk get his and make the mavs shoot jump shots.

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    Who cares who's on Dirk? He's probably going to get his one way or another. What the Spurs need to do is focus on shutting the support players down. Make Dirk think he has to do it himself and see if he crumbles under the pressure.
    I agree, Dirk is going to get his. What we would like to do is improve our rebounding as a team (which killed us last year with small ball), without having a complete mismatch on Dirk. Elson gives us that. Bonner and Oberto might be able to give us some usable minutes as well. Particularly, Bonner might be able to stay with J. Ho, while Bowen matches up with Dirk. Last year, that was Finley on J-Ho, and Howard killed us on the boards (7.1 rpg, 2nd highest on their team. Finley was our 2nd highest at 4.7 boards).

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    Not to get off the subject, but is Dirk his real name? i know it's German, but it sounds pretty ed up. That kind of name should make him want to pretend he's Artest and his parents, Artests wife and back slap them beyatches! Dirk rhymess w/, jerk... bezerk, twerp, mini-skirt.. etc.

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    The fact is, the Mavericks get too much respect from other teams just because they beat SA in the playoffs last year. None of their opponents show up to play, they're too busy being intimidated by a defensive, but still jump shooting team.

    It's more about the majority of the NBA being bad than Dallas being good. Outside of SA and Utah, Dallas has no solid compe ion. Any of the other 28 teams will be beaten on any given night against Dallas.

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    Make Dirk play defense is also a good way.
    If he is playing weak assed defense then you need to have whoever he is guarding score. That is why if Bruces back is whack it won't work.

    T_Park Finley didn't work out well last year so I doubt its gonna happen.
    T-Park is that light shedding forth?

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    Elson for most of the game with Duncan making sure he stays out of foul trouble. Then Duncan takes over a good bit in the fourth. Sprinkle in Bowen, Oberto, Horry and whoever else may be on the playoff roster (Ely?).

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    T-Park is that light shedding forth?
    What ing light.

    I think Finley should play, but not at the 4.

    I've said that for the longest time.

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    Don't guard him, guard the rest ... the blondie will make mistakes, that's it. and plz explains this carefully to Manu.

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    The fact is, the Mavericks get too much respect from other teams just because they beat SA in the playoffs last year. None of their opponents show up to play, they're too busy being intimidated by a defensive, but still jump shooting team.

    It's more about the majority of the NBA being bad than Dallas being good. Outside of SA and Utah, Dallas has no solid compe ion. Any of the other 28 teams will be beaten on any given night against Dallas.
    Thanks for the laugh.

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    the best way to Defend the Mavs is a FIBA/NCAA TYPE OF ZONE D.When Dirk is on the perimeter Manu or/and Bruce can guard him and when he goes to the paint eather Tim or Elson can take care of him.They should´ve done that last year.

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    BTW,Dirk wouldn´t be able to play out of his mind all the time in a FIBA turnament like He does in the NBA.(cause of the zone Ds)

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    Do you think Elson can guard Dirk on the perimeter?

    Do you think anyone can guard Dirk on the perimater?

    The answer is no. We do, however, need someone that can rebound with him and at least slow him down. Elson is our best option here.

    IMO one of the main reasons the Mavs won the series last year is because of Dirks ability to rebound over Bruce. I can't begin to count how badly they killed us on the boards. Look at his rebound totals from that series. They were absolutely monstrous.


    The other thing I noticed is that other teams don't go at Dirk on the defensive end. If you can't guard him, you gotta get him out of the game. He's not a good defender and is slow of foot in that regard. Attack him aggressively and see if you can't get him into foul trouble.

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    Elson doesn't like players that are banging...that's not what Dirk does. He won't have a problem with Dirk.

    Miller believe it or not can be a pretty physical player, especially when he's pissed. Ask Shaq......

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