Define 'deep trouble'.
I agree that Dallas is very good, but since I haven't seen many of the games I was surprised to see last night (and, admittedly, I only saw the first half) that their defense wasn't very good. Wasn't Avery supposed to have them playing defense? Was the first half's defensive showing just an aberration?
Like the Suns were better than us in 05, Kori?It's pretty definable.
The Mavs are 6 1/2 games better than the Spurs
Or the Pistons better than the Heat last year?
If we look at the correlation between who has the best record in the regular season and who wins it all, the correlation is not that strong (about .5) during the last 15 or so years.
I can't imagine what reply awaits these facts.
I mean there will most likely be no blowouts in the next games. Hard fought battle till the end.
Phoenix forces you to play that high scoring game. Remember in 2005, the way the Spurs-Suns WCF went? The Suns were held under 100 only twice in the five games (92 and 95) and the Spurs had the best scoring defense in the league that season, allowing 88.4 per game. That's Phoenix for you.
It wasn't just the fact that there was a high score. It just looked like Phoenix was absolutely shredding Dallas' defense on the high pick and rolls. As I said, I didn't see the second half though. Maybe they solved it at half time?
I agree about the first half. In the third quarter, Dallas played much better defense. On the other hand, in the fourth quarter, Dallas allowed Phoenix to put up 35 points and get the game into OT. In OT, Dallas still seemed to struggle stopping the pick and roll. On the other hand, Suns still continued to allow Dampier to own them on the offensive boards (for Dallas).
it's fear and insecurity
I'm not sure what that means, but the players that matter and will be playing a lot are Dirk, JHo, Terry, DHarris and Stack. And the players that matter for the Spurs are Tim, Manu, Tony and Bruce (and hopefully someone else steps up).
I don't know why the pre-occupation with trying to find ways to make the Mavs seem bad. They are very, very good. Do they have the best bench of all-time? No. But the Spurs bench (if you count Manu as a starter) isn't anything to write home about.
The teams will match up pretty well in the playoffs, but overall this season the Mavericks have been a better team this year. I don't know why Spurs fans are dying to downgrade that somehow.
I would love for us to beat the mavs and am more confident in the Spurs than at any other point of the season, but the reality is the mavericks have more players who show up consistently whereas for us TD shows up, Manu shows up most of the time, Parker shows up in the first half (though his clutch play is improving to his credit), and everyone else is a complete question mark
The Mavs are WAAAAY better than the Spurs
AT CHOKING
we're worried and want to see some sort of crack in an armament that seems pretty much unstoppable. saying that the team that has had 3 double-digit game streaks in a single season, which puts them in the same company that only championship teams have ever had, and having been beaten twice on our home floor, makes us jittery and looking for ways to say the end of our season isn't going to come as quickly as those losses make it appear. we're grasping for straws and ignoring the horses.
I'm not sure what that means, but the players that matter and will be playing a lot are Dirk, JHo, Terry, DHarris and Stack. And the players that matter for the Spurs are Tim, Manu, Tony and Bruce (and hopefully someone else steps up).
I don't know why the pre-occupation with trying to find ways to make the Mavs seem bad. They are very, very good. Do they have the best bench of all-time? No. But the Spurs bench (if you count Manu as a starter) isn't anything to write home about.
The teams will match up pretty well in the playoffs, but overall this season the Mavericks have been a better team this year. I don't know why Spurs fans are dying to downgrade that somehow.
No, I'm just saying most people argue in favor of Dallas by saying "Aside from 0-4, we're this and this", or "if we didn't lose to Golden State". And no, 69-13 isn't bad, especially in a league with only 3 solid teams. They won't be in the same league as MJ's 70-wins Bulls anymore though.Aren't you the one throwing stuff out the window here? The Mavs regular season success was the buzz about the Mavericks season to that point. The question was asked "Why do people think the Mavs are so great?" and I answered based on the reaction Dallas' success was generating.
Don't confuse what I said with some sort of argument which goes "The Mavs would have finished 74-8 if not for [fill in the blank]." That is absolutely NOT what I was saying.
BTW, 69 wins "isn't bad"? That would tie the 1972 Lakers and the 1997 Bulls for the second best record of all time. Yeah, 69-13 is pretty decent.
They could officially still win 70
I don't think they are soooo much better than us. I think they are better in their execution, consistency, and rebounding, but hopefully the Spurs can close that gap come playoff time. They are going to be tough. I think you are right, though, the media and a lot of other teams I think overlook the Spurs. That's a good thing for us I think.
The issue with the Mav's is the pounding by mavfans and homer media as one of the greatest teams of all time. With zero champions and only one hall of fame caliber player they have not earned this right. The Spurs by virtue of a greater run of years, championships, and more than one hall of fame level player still do not get the respect they deserve.
I'm not sure what that means, but the players that matter and will be playing a lot are Dirk, JHo, Terry, DHarris and Stack. And the players that matter for the Spurs are Tim, Manu, Tony and Bruce (and hopefully someone else steps up).
I don't know why the pre-occupation with trying to find ways to make the Mavs seem bad. They are very, very good. Do they have the best bench of all-time? No. But the Spurs bench (if you count Manu as a starter) isn't anything to write home about.
The teams will match up pretty well in the playoffs, but overall this season the Mavericks have been a better team this year. I don't know why Spurs fans are dying to downgrade that somehow.
You're joking, right?
all of a sudden the Mavs drop a double OT game to the Suns and we're extremely vulnerable?
plus, whoever said we were unbeatable Gods? the reason they have us higher than you is because we have the upper hand in head to head meetings. that simple. dont like it, you have to beat us first. earn your praise
What GS and the Suns showed is that you CAN out score the Mavs, in the run and gun game. What does that mean to a team like the Spurs?
ZERO.
Dallas is the home of bigots, fake s, and frontrunners. What does this mean about Mavs Fans?
Everything.
Dallas is good.
Believe me, it will be the toughest series against them this year, if it happens.
Earn these first crack-a-lacka.
I have been cursed by the gods and forced to live in Dallas for some time now, actually over a year, and have caught small stretches of games this year when flipping through the channels....plus I read up on the dallas morning news during lunch..
Basically Dirk is just ridiculous now, he's like the Duncan of their offense, but gets to the foul line much much more than Duncan due to being a jump shooter instead of a banger....and if you don't close guard dirk, he is amazingly accurate on short range jumpers....amazingly accurate....Then they have Josh Howard who is probably the most important Mav after Dirk IMO, who not only creates almost any way he wants, but also plays good individual defense.
Add that to very solid team defense, and very solid team rebounding (dampier is rebounding much better than either of our centers, he actually believes in GETTING POSITION instead of letting the ball fall into his hands--can you believe it?!)
Also Devin Harris is virtually a poor man's tony parker
Jason Terry is their weakness imo, he's so blatantly overrated, and riding the team's coattails
and I believe their bench is just as solid if not more solid than ours
plus the bench has been playing well all season, not just in the month of march.
Sounds like you wrote that last year.
Man, I don't think any intelligent fans think the Mavs are a whole lot better than the Spurs. I sure as don't. I think the Mavs have had a phenomenal season so far, but San Antonio is a ing phenomenal team -- I never doubted that they'd turn it on this season. (even when some of you Spurs fans did -- don't deny it, just a couple of weeks ago some of you were jumping ship!)
What media are you guys paying attention to? The media I see and hear says 'San Antonio is without question the team to beat in the NBA' after the Mavs lose their first game in 6 weeks. The media I hear talks about how the Mavs have had a phenomenal season but here are the 09283409823 ways that Phoenix, San Anotonio, Detroit and Miami can and/or will beat them. The media I read says that San Antonio is number 1 virtually the ENTIRE time the Mavs are on a 17 game win streak. (not that I give 1 bit of a what Hollinger thinks or what his statistics say, I'm just saying it works to prove my point that the media hasn't really been all that up on the Mavs.)
Oh and by the way, to the guy who was commenting about the Mavs lack of defense last night --- HORRID performance defensively. The last two games, in fact. Worst of the season. Mavs are not by any stretch the best defensive team in the game, but what you saw last night was NOT typical (for this season, anyway...maybe under Nellie) Mavs defense.
Have you ever been to Dallas?
Yes.
Next question.
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