jim can not look at the game thread to find out he starts his own
Too bad Pop keep giving Oberto PT
As soon Elson got the starting job Bonner or Ely should be playing good minutes off the bench
Pop didn't do it and now we have to see the terrible Oberto and the not much better Elson in the playoffs.
Like I said in another post. I'd start TD and Bonner and bring Horry from the bench in the playoffs.
Too bad Pop won't do it
stop saying that, it's not true. the spurs are still better playing oberto/elson than playing small ball. this has been proven over and over again. small ball has never worked, while playing oberto/elson at least gives you a shot.
popovich apologists are always trying to shift the blame.
Sorry but Elson + Oberto is the same as small ball
No rebound and no defense
I prefer stay big with Bonner. But I think Pop won't play him
In tonight's game, the small ball lineup was the one that defensively got the Spurs back in the game.
Oberto and Elson don't consistently provide much on either end, or on the glass. I wish one of them did because small ball in long stretches.
Man, I'd rather lose to Dallas than lose to Boston. I can't believe they've now beaten Tim Duncan once in his career.
I had a bad feeling about the whole St Patrick's day thing and how ironic it would be if today was the day the Celts finally beat us.
I was hoping I was wrong.
I know the Spurs should never have been down like they were but I was happy to see that they rallied and got themselves right back in the game.
That's something, right?
Well, let's see... too much Al Jefferson, getting killed on the boards, Paul Pierce torching Bowen, two traveling calls, one botched layup, and Bowen thinking he was Kobe Bryant driving through the lane did the Spurs in.
Oh, and digging a 19 point hole in the third quarter didn't do the Spurs any favors.
Moral victories don't count in the standings.
What does he not being on the All-Star team have to do with his subpar performances lately???
The starting line-up got the team into a big hole right away in the 1st and 3rd because Barry/Elson were atrocious on defense.
Oberto couldn't grab a rebound or play defense to save his life and that got us in more trouble. Bowen helped defensively but because he can't hit the side of a barn he constantly gave the Celtics a free out when they double teamed in the lane.
Also once again Tony and Manu struggled with chemistry playing together. I think mainly playing smallball contributes to this. In smallball it's very easy to trap Manu and make him give it up because Duncan is his screener instead of another big and his only available outlet is usually Bowen.
No offense to anyone here, but there was no shining ray of light tonight. Losing to the Celtics at home is ing bull .
The Spurs ing suck ass.
His numbers of late are case in point. I've argued here in the past that manu is not an all star caliber player because he is too inconsistent and doesn't put up overall numbers that other guys do. And numbers is what drives all star votes.What does he not being on the All-Star team have to do with his subpar performances lately???
amazing. What has gotten into the celtics? these youngsters played dallas close and now beat the Spurs??
Paul Pierce, Paul Pierce, Paul Pierce. I remember when the league laughed at the Yaoless Roxs getting beat 77-72 on Feb. 26th. The Spurs were on the 6th win of their 13 game streak. Paul Pierce was clutch in that game....Well, the roxs got Yao back and on March 7th, hammered the Celts 111-80. 1 (tmac) 11 (yao) to 80.
But the Spurs have to wait till next year to hammer the Celts.
Jim...hope that Michael Finley opts this summer so Pop can't play the small ball line up ever again.
I swear...if we'd had Michael when David was till playing, Pop would have had Finley closing out games.
The small ball line up got us back in the game, I guess, but the bottom line is that we took the lead late...we had Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker a crowd going completely insane, and a team that is going to be in the Oden sweepstakes and hadn'
t won in SA in 17 years, beat us...
Flat out beat us, no fluke to it.
What compounds the problems for the small ball lineup, is that Bowen is often used as a part of it...so not only are we undersized...we also have limited offense and severely limited rebounding at one of the positions...
And Bruce pissed me off tonight with his rebounding...there was about 5 offensive boards he could have gotten had he he took a step forward instead of waiting for Duncan to get his own tip.
It's a horrible idea...Pop was exposed as a fool by Pat Riley last year for attempting to win with this lineup...
And he's still trying to prove he knows more than anyone else.
All he's proving to me is that he can lose a game against possibly the worst team in the NBA, having Duncan, Parker and Manu.
It's a horrible philosophy that won't produce an NBA championship...and Pop is pissing me off with his obstinance.
I'd at least like to see us a lose a game using a conventional lineup this season before giving up on it...seeing how badly Pat Riley owned Pop last year.
We'll stop getting out rebounded when we stop playing with a 6'7 C and a SF that is probably the worst rebounder at his position in the NBA.
We lose with that lineup because of rebounding, and the fact that it is completely and utterly useless in any type of halfcourt game.
That lineup is absolute poison and I question the basketball a en of anyone that can't see why the Spurs can't win using it....first and foremost Greg Popovich...all he's proving to me is how lucky we were to win with him as a coach in the first place.
If Pop pulls this in the playoffs, he needs to be fired...he's putting his ego ahead of everyone and everything on this team.
Last edited by whottt; 03-18-2007 at 01:44 AM.
Here's why Boston beat SA:
SA allowed Boston to gain confidence early in the game by leaving them WIDE OPEN and sinking a bunch of easy jump shots that my dog could probably have made too.
Boston and Milwaukee both did that. Come on, we're talking about two teams that have less wins COMBINED than SA. These last two games have been a joke.
Ah well, all we can do till Wednesday is hope Detroit takes some more steam off Dallas.
I guess I'm satisfied with a 58 win season now.
This loss wasn't a fluke...
Spurs got the lead late and wanted this win...you could see it in their faces. You could also see that they knew it wasn't going to happen.
Duncan hit a shot to break a scoreless drought for both teams and not a single Spur gave him a high 5...he was even holding out his hand. I knew this team didn't believe when Is aw that.
And the reason they don't believe is that Pop forces them to win with both hands tied behind their backs....
Pop is making everything harder for this team...with his bull smallball experiement.
I am just about to the point where I am rooting for Finley to get injured so that we can make it out of the frst round this year.
If your Dallas, San Antonio, Detroit, Pheonix or the Miami Cheats, bad teams usually bring thier "A++" game against the better teams in the NBA. And sometimes bad teams succeed.
At least the Jazz have kept pace with our losses. As long as we get the 3rd seed I'll be happy. If we fall to 4th we might not get past round 1 let alone round 2.He'll probably get moved back into the starting lineup...
Man, the worst part is, with the Suns about to lose again tonight...Spurs could have pulled to within ONE game of them!
Well Boston was on b2b
I wish that somehow Bonner or Ely would emerge as a possibility at starting PF and Duncan could slide to C.
I wish that also but i tried to put myself into pop's mind ( not easy i know ).
I won't play ely because he's still lost in the system and as much as oberto elson horry sucks they know the system better. I hesitate to play bonner too long because i prefer veteran player horry oberto and because bonner defense is less good than theses guys on a consistent basis.
I don't know but maybe pop is being too stuck on its rotations and don't have the flexibility to change . Hierarchy on the team seems to be well defined and very hard for youngsters to come into. You know we could use the last games of the regular season to develop Ely but pop will certainly stick with its rotation.
No... jersey sales and the entire population of the People's Republic of China is what drives All Star Votes.
Why did we continue to jack up so many threes. I recall on one possession during the 4th quarter comeback, there was a missed shot, then we got the rebound, and 3 seconds later Finley jacked up a three and missed horribly. The two traveling calls on Duncan and Parker really hurt, but the 3rd quarter drought really killed us.
Thankyou for answering my query.
Still scratching my head over this.
It seems like there are a whole lot of negative firsts in the TD era going on this year.
1. Losing to Boston
2. Losing at home to Houston
3. Losing at home to Utah
4. Losing season series to Milwaukee
5. Losing season series to Cleveland
Foreshadowing????
I think so.....the TD championship era is closing rapidly
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