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    the factor x is elson when he struggle the spurs struggle

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    If his rebounding was for a contract, what was his scoring for? A lead role in a hardcore porno movie?

    Because aside from rebounding, he was also putting it in the hole a lot.
    He probably would've made more from royalties FROM a hardcore porn flick than what he signed for this year.

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    Be more humble? Who's not being humble? Parker? Bowen? Elson?

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    It comes down to more than confidence. With the Spurs up 85-83, Duncan didn't touch the ball again on offense.

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    Be more humble? Who's not being humble? Parker? Bowen? Elson?
    Manu always uses the phrase "we need to be more humble". He means, as a team, they can't be overconfident against the "lesser" teams.

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    Manu always uses the phrase "we need to be more humble". He means, as a team, they can't be overconfident against the "lesser" teams.
    The weird thing is, I'm not sure that was even the case last night. Several people seemed to have pointed out that when the Spurs rallied back from 19 down they really showed they wanted to win and heart and focus. They jsut don't have the right personell this season though to accomplish it.

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    The weird thing is, I'm not sure that was even the case last night. Several people seemed to have pointed out that when the Spurs rallied back from 19 down they really showed they wanted to win and heart and focus. They jsut don't have the right personell this season though to accomplish it.
    Well I think that the fact they came out so flat and lackadaisical in the first and third quarters is what he is referencing.

    They sleepwalked through the whole first quarter and then to start the 3rd quarter, they didn't even get a rebound for 7 minutes.

    That heart and focus you are talking about didn't start until 1 min left in the 3rd quarter. So I think that's exactly what he means.

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    It comes down to more than confidence. With the Spurs up 85-83, Duncan didn't touch the ball again on offense.
    well ask the point guard...why...

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    well ask the point guard...why...


    Ridiculous.

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    Ginobili lays blame on Spurs' confidence


    No Spur struggled more thoroughly with his shot than Bruce Bowen, who missed 7 of 8 shots and clanked both his 3-point attempts. He even air-balled a layup on a four-on-one fast break.

    "What a time to struggle," Bowen said. "There's one thing in struggles: You don't want somebody to start shooting shots they're not capable of making or start trying to do too much. I missed shots that I'm capable of making tonight. But of all nights, I knew I'd get shots tonight, and that's usually enough to make you feel good. I got them and just didn't do well with them."

    Bowen also committed a key crunch time turnover, losing the ball as he started a dribble from the top of the key with the score tied at 85.



    Lies!! I think Bowen of all people should know how much he's been sucking at shooting.
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    Lies!! I think Bowen of all people should know how much he's been sucking at shooting.
    Umm... I think in that quote he is acknowledging that he has been sucking at shooting.

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    seems to me, Spurs play great against good teams and plays bad against bad teams. Its not the end of the world, they will remain contendars for the le

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    I noticed Manu came in earlier than usual in the first quarter. By no means am I putting the problems on Brent starting, but I'm wondering if Manu coming off the bench isn't working anymore. Or perhaps it only works against certain teams. For whatever reason, the Spurs dug themselves a hole in the beginnings of the first and third quarters.

    What's bothered me more in the past few games is that we don't have a reliable third scorer. Tony and Timmy have gotten their points, but Manu has obviously dropped off from his streak of a couple weeks ago and there hasn't been anyone to answer the call. Brent got hot the other night, but Tony and Timmy were below their average, so it didn't matter.

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    Tony and Manu are struggling to play together once again. The more minutes they play together the worse it gets. They played like what, 27 mins together yesterday? And Manu got 8 shots.

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    Tony and Manu are struggling to play together once again. The more minutes they play together the worse it gets. They played like what, 27 mins together yesterday? And Manu got 8 shots.

    i don't know what it is ...i keep saying its tony because he does not get people involved............but now i don;t know may be ....... any thought???why manu and tony can't seem to play together ?
    i have noticed a lot of plays where tony just goes for a lay up and lay up but then that does not work because the other people are not involved at all and later when we actually need someone to score at the end of the fourth quarter tony blows a lay up or passes but since his teamates have not been involved to get their confidence up..it's hard for them to make those shots....

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    we just seem to win more when manu is playing and scoring 20 and tony is at the 15 and 7 assist or so......i just want to see Tony find people at their "Sweet" spots and he should know where his teammates like to shoot...like steve nash ...but maybe that is just too much to ask of him ...i don't know

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    What amazes me the most about Pop is after all this time he either completely misunderstands or chooses to ignore what gets the fans excited in San Antonio.

    The fans like it when Manu scores. A LOT. Many people in the arena speak the Español. They naturally gravitate to that Ginobili dude.

    Manu scoring = fans clapping and cheering and yelling = energy in the building = more energy for the team = better play.

    It's pretty frickin' simple.

    But Pop would almost prefer to play in an empty arena rather than considering the thought that the whole purpose of the league is to entertain people. He constantly keeps the team on a leash creatively and never seems to notice when Manu goes through these three minute stretches where he's completely frozen out of the offense. And then people wonder why the team plays like zombies at home sometimes and loses to lesser teams....

    Get Manu involved early and often and the fans will be into it and the team won't let down against teams. I don't know how I can state this any clearer.

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    well sometimes i just feel that manu is not being "appreciated" by pop..i mean he can score
    he seems like stackhouse to me but there he gets a lot of the offensive run by him at the end of 1st and beginning of second and even late in the 4th …but Stackhouse is like the 4th option there or the fifth and has more touches on the ball than manu does…
    I think pop should really rethink because we are going to end up like last year because we are not going to get anywhere without manu…..

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    may be tony should learn that he has to get his teamates confidence up first and then his ...... last game i think he got his first assist in the second half....may be his teamates where not hitting the Shots...but some of that falls on him too because he should know when to pass it to whom and where always!

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    What amazes me the most about Pop is after all this time he either completely misunderstands or chooses to ignore what gets the fans excited in San Antonio.

    The fans like it when Manu scores. A LOT. Many people in the arena speak the Español. They naturally gravitate to that Ginobili dude.

    Manu scoring = fans clapping and cheering and yelling = energy in the building = more energy for the team = better play.

    It's pretty frickin' simple.

    But Pop would almost prefer to play in an empty arena rather than considering the thought that the whole purpose of the league is to entertain people. He constantly keeps the team on a leash creatively and never seems to notice when Manu goes through these three minute stretches where he's completely frozen out of the offense. And then people wonder why the team plays like zombies at home sometimes and loses to lesser teams....

    Get Manu involved early and often and the fans will be into it and the team won't let down against teams. I don't know how I can state this any clearer.

    i don’t know but it seems that pop does not like manu ...i know it seems absurd but how else can u explain it?

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    It's not that Pop doesn't like Manu. He's just TOO concerned about keeping him on a leash for preservation purposes. Rest your players when they're nursing injuries. But let them play their games when they're healthy. Manu definitely needs to be the second option. It's how WE WON in 2005. Last year Manu was the third and FOURTH option (with a legitimate excuse)! and that kept him out of sync, and ultimately the whole team were old, and lazy, because nothing sparked them in last year's regular season, with Manu hurting.

    Manu should be taking 15 shots or more!

    It won't effect Tony and Tim's shots, but it will prevent us from having BOWEN take his usual 1 out of 10 shots. I mean, let Manu handle the ball! He automatically looks for the optimal way of scoring. He'll pass to whoever the , whatever time period in the game, whether hot or cold, if they're in a better position to score, he'll do it. I don't know why fans have to wonder, if it's *actually* the case where he's underusing Manu according to strategy. Let the teams adjust to Manu handling the ball.

    You can save talent, and rest them for the playoffs, but Manu needs enough minutes where he's running the team. Did he not learn anything?

    It was almost as if when Pop was forced to have Tony third scorer because of his latest injury. We were leading bigger and playing more spryly, with Tony getting in his layups, but taking on his role he had in 2005. I hate to admit it, but Tony's great, but the team stagnates when it's just Tony 32 minutes straight, and THEN Manu is asked to handle the fourth. Who's the real reason behind us playing like we did in January? Pop!
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    Damn, that completely changes my interpretation of the quote. I was excited to hear Manu sound fired about about losing by saying "Damn!" and was thinking, wow we finally got a leader in that lockerroom....
    Yeah I 'm kind of disappointed in a way, cuz it would have been awesome if he was really pissed. But who knows, maybe he did started cursing in spanish in the locker room, telling the people to get their heads out of their asses and stop celebrating the win streaks.

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    Pop better not let this year slip again.



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    GUH - NO - BLEEEEEE!!!!!!

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    "We started very slow. We came back and brought the game to five, and then we started the third quarter again with a 10-0 (Celtics) run. We can't allow that to happen. We've got to step out and play with more aggressiveness, knowing that we've got 16 games to the playoffs. We should be in way better shape." -- Manu Ginobili

    I expect that he will be starting on Wednesday.

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    "We started very slow. We came back and brought the game to five, and then we started the third quarter again with a 10-0 (Celtics) run. We can't allow that to happen. We've got to step out and play with more aggressiveness, knowing that we've got 16 games to the playoffs. We should be in way better shape." -- Manu Ginobili

    I expect that he will be starting on Wednesday.
    ...and watch Barry go on a 30 point tear on Wednesday.

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