Question for Mexican Posters

[whottt]

You think it's their political views that leads them to cross?

No...I think it's their economic situation...however, their economic situation is directly related to the policies of the Mexican Government.

The Mexican Leftist Government...I might add(up till recently).



Because when I see someone like ponky cheering Chavez for the nationalization of Venzuela's Oil industry...

I am wondering if she cheers Mexico's longtime nationalized Oil Industry with the same vigor.

[whottt]

at least in texas, that's not accurate...blame a certain general who didn't have the authorization from the mex. govt. to make deals in its name

Oh it's pretty accurate...Mexican's were not originally here en masse. It was the Texas Indians...

The Mexican Government actually had to encourage colonization of Texas by European Colonists because the Mexican citizens were so relucatant to do so.


Most of the actual Mexican Colonists that did come, fought for Texas Independence from Mexico.

Mexico's only claim to Texas was as a colonial property.

Maybe not, but it has everything to do with the thought process that goes on in your mind when you view Mexicans or Mexican-Americans, who cares about making distinctions, right?

Anyone who wants to be called Mexican American instead of just American, or considers ethnicity to be a reason to unite, cares about making distinctions...

I doubt most Mexican-Americans even know what the is going on in Mexico right now and probably have been as far south as the nearest bar in Laredo to sip some margaritas and buy cheap silver. They probably still think Fox is the president of Mexico. I understand your question but it's like you assume Mexican-Americans know what's going on and stay informed about Mexico, tuning in to Primer Impacto every night.

Wrong...

What I expexct them to know...is why they came over here, either their parents, or their grandparents...

And don't give me the crap that it's about the land...because it isn't...the Mexican citizens that cared about land stayed and fought for Texas Independence from Mexico.



I don't want Tejano's participating. I don't want Texas Indians participating...

I want Mexican citizens living in America or first or second generation Americans...

[clambake]

How many oil shares do you own? What would you expect under-developed countries to do with their oil?

[whottt]

Just shut the up you sucking moron...I don't need you ing up my thread with stupidity and your knee jerk lefy PCness. Go smoke a pole...Chump's lonely.

[clambake]

You brought it up, dip . Too bad you weren't wearing that bowl during your epic skull drop. Might have helped.

Stop pushing the chilibowl away. It worked for Moe. He owned Larry and Curly.

[01Snake]

Just shut the up you sucking moron...I don't need you ing up my thread with stupidity and your knee jerk lefy PCness. Go smoke a pole...Chump's lonely.

[01Snake]

Love the people who bash others photos. If you're gonna cast stones, lets see a picture of your ugly mug for comparison. MmmmK.

[whottt]

You brought it up, dip . Too bad you weren't wearing that bowl during your epic skull drop. Might have helped.

Stop pushing the chilibowl away. It worked for Moe. He owned Larry and Curly.

...are you Mexican or Mexican American?


IF not...STFU.


I didn't ask for the white guilt translation...

[Fillmoe]

whottt you come off as the type of guy that might say or ###### alot........

[whottt]

Love the people who bash others photos. If you're gonna cast stones, lets see a picture of your ugly mug for comparison. MmmmK.

She can bash my photos all she wants lmao.

I don't post my pic on the internet...and the only reason they have that one is because I was drunk and engrossed in discussing the finer points of trolling with Joe Chalupa.

[whottt]

whottt you come off as the type of guy that might say or ###### alot........

Why do you say that?


Please, tell me.

Why do you say that?

[clambake]

You always bring up oil. You also stated that you preferred a "greedy war monger for president". That combination of facts is legitimate. Can't you save the card for later and suggest just how americanization of mex. oil will benefit the people of mex?

[whottt]

You always bring up oil. You also stated that you preferred a "greedy war monger for president".

I stated that I prefer a greedy war monger over a virtuous moron...and I do.

I don't prefer a greedy war monger just on general principles...just when they are running against traitors or idiots. Or in the case of John Kerry...traitors and idiots.

That combination of facts is legitimate. Can't you save the card for later and suggest just how americanization of mex. oil will benefit the people of mex?

Americanization?

[clambake]

HOw will oil profits filtered through the mex. gov. benefit the people of mex. regardless of who runs the production? Are you asking about their political beliefs because you think there is some strong movement they can base?

[shelshor]

... how americanization of mex. oil will benefit the people of mex?

On a personal level, the guy who has to put up with an oil well on his land would then receive rent, surface damages and, hopefully, money from mineral rights, if the Mexican government hasn't confiscated all of them
As it is, he just has less land for his crops or herds and therefore less food for his family's table; not to mention the hassles of trying to farm around an oil well site

[whottt]

sheshor...don't even bother.

clambake doesn't have intelligence or validity behind his beliefs...he is the stupidest poster on the political forum.

His political views are nearly 100% racially motivated...basically, he thinks if he can kiss enough special interest ass it'll make up for the past transgressions of the evil white man.

That's all clambake is...

Best to just leave him being the dingleberry of all leftist stances and let him atone(for all of us) in his own, "unique" way.


Yes, even the pilot fish has his role to play in the grand scheme of things.

[nkdlunch]

I ain't mexican, but

I want to know what your thoughts on the Mexican Government are.

Do you think it's hopelessly corrupt and ineffective?

No, but a huge social change would need to happen and this is very difficult to happen, because the big brother(US) would not want a huge social change next door.

Should the US take a more active role in controlling immigration from Mexico?

If they want to, it's their country, they can do whatever they want. they just need to remember the chinese don't give a about immigration and they will soon become the most powerful with their billions of citizens.

What are your thoughts on the causes behind Mexico's economic problems?

Being next door to US is their blessing and curse.

[whottt]

Thanks...I appreciate your input...but the fact that you aren't Mexican means I'm really not interested in your POV on this...if I need an outsiders POV I can use my own.


Still waiting for a legitimate response...Ponky couldb't decide if she wanted to troll or actually have a debate and other than that I haven't gotten a single wortwhile response to my very civilly asked questions from any person with a history going back to Mexico.

I want responses from people who either have lived under that government...or had grandparents or parents who did.

[Melmart1]

I'm third generation. Sorry.

[whottt]

LMAO...no ones going to give me a serious answer to this question...why not?



It's a very simple question about the dominant politics of the Mexican government for much of the last century.

[Melmart1]

Because you have exact parameters as to who you want an answer from. Have patience. If they are Mexican, they are probably mowing a lawn somewhere and the rest might be in school or work right now. Wait till after 5 and you might get your answers.

[whottt]

I ain't mexican, but


No, but a huge social change would need to happen and this is very difficult to happen, because the big brother(US) would not want a huge social change next door.

You're wrong about that...and even if you are right...that's an indictment of the Mexican Government selling out it's own people by enlisting policies that benefit America over Mexico.

Spin it however you want...but it still doesn't speak well for Socialist leaning governments.

If they want to, it's their country, they can do whatever they want. they just need to remember the chinese don't give a about immigration and they will soon become the most powerful with their billions of citizens.

China can't do ...they don't have the money to move their people, and their military has to be used to keep the government in power...

Just because their economy is growing doesn't mean it's trickling down to the average Chinese either...they still have one of the lowest annual incomes per household of any industrialized nation.


And lastly...the Chinese Government's limits on children has seriously ed up their demographic...

Their female population is decreasing and their male population is aging.


Sorry...no victory for communism here...not to mention that their communist government is so capitalist it puts Bill Gates to shame.

Being next door to US is their blessing and curse.

Oh please...don't blame us for their government corruption...they are like all leftist governments...

They pay lips service to the poor so they can steal the countries wealth.


It just amazes that the defining trait for most lefties is the belief that governments can be pure and altruistic...

What naivete...what ignorance.

I know better than to trust any government implicitly...

[JoeChalupa]

I believe the Mexican Government is corrupt, more so than our government due to the economy of the country and the bribes that are paid in all levels of the govt. Simple as that. I remember going down there with my parents many years ago and my dad got stopped and while I don't remember all the details I do remember my dad handing over some cash and we were on our way.
There is corruption in all government...yes, even our beloved U.S.A. government and that too goes from the City Council, Mayor, State House and Senate, U.S. House and Senate and yeah...even to the Oval Office!!

[nkdlunch]

It just amazes that the defining trait for most lefties is the belief that governments can be pure and altruistic...

What naivete...what ignorance.

you ask for serious responses but then respond with these insults. you are not worth the time of posters here. i'm out of your "serious" thread

next time you ask for serious response, I will click "Back".

[dallaskd]

I didnt know Mexicans owned computers.