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  1. 03-23-2007 #26
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    If you're talking NFL:

    Leslie O'Neal went #8 to San Diego in '86
    Barry Sanders went #3 to Detriot in '89
    Kevin Williams went #9 to Minnesota in '03
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  2. 03-23-2007 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    You obviously haven't dealt with CaptMike in the past... you've already lost all credibility by invoking the name and memory of Big Country. Unless this is "Top 10 NBA Busts of All Time," then we can start talking.

    Even Steve Francis refused to play for them and he'll play anywhere that pays him to shoot airballs.
    Aww, quit crawfishing RM, you said "Top 10 ever". Now that you're called on it you want to argue performance?
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  3. 03-23-2007 #28
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    Nice... just as 1369 says, your ignorance speaks for itself.
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  4. 03-23-2007 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1369
    If you're talking NFL:

    Leslie O'Neal went #8 to San Diego in '86
    Barry Sanders went #3 to Detriot in '89
    Kevin Williams went #9 to Minnesota in '03
    Yes, and Darrant Williams went #1 in 2007 Denver drive-by shooting draft. (That was a terrilbe event, by the way, and I'm in no way trying to tarnish the memory of Darrant Williams and I certainly hope the killers are brought to justice. I'm just a "shock comic.")

    I'm not talking NFL... I only said Barry Sanders sarcastically.

    CaptMike acts like (a) OSU athletics is the greatest in the history of the NCAA and (b) OSU basketball destorys all.
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  5. 03-23-2007 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    Yes, and Darrant Williams went #1 in 2007 Denver drive-by shooting draft. (That was a terrilbe event, by the way, and I'm in no way trying to tarnish the memory of Darrant Williams and I certainly hope the killers are brought to justice. I'm just a "shock comic.")

    I'm not talking NFL... I only said Barry Sanders sarcastically.

    CaptMike acts like (a) OSU athletics is the greatest in the history of the NCAA and (b) OSU basketball destorys all.

    Again... your ignornace is sreaming. Please show me where I made ANY football reference. I guess part of being a 'shock' comic is flat out lying.
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  6. 03-23-2007 #31
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    Even better yet, lets count the number of current NBA players from atm vs OSU.
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  7. 03-23-2007 #32
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    Or perhaps number of NBA players all time from each school.
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  8. 03-23-2007 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1369
    Aww, quit crawfishing RM, you said "Top 10 ever". Now that you're called on it you want to argue performance?
    Crawfishing? He's one of the most overrated players in the history of College Basketball and the NBA. You want to talk about Sam Bowie? Kwame Brown? Darko? Jonathan Bender?

    I could take a right now that would have more talent than Bryant Reeves... naturally, it will go the same place his career did: straight down the toilet.

    Acie Law is not a Top-10 pick, but I would expect him to have a more productive career than Bryant Reeves and I think that's all that matters.
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  9. 03-23-2007 #34
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    Let's count the current number of players with criminal records
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  10. 03-23-2007 #35
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    Yes RM, crawfishing. You asked if OSU ever had a top 10 NBA draft pick and I gave you one (And I think the only one in the top 10).

    But it doesn't count because he was overrated (By a mile), injury prone, and had a crap career?

    Explain how his career post-draft has any implications on his top 10 selection.
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  11. 03-23-2007 #36
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    Capt. Mike may say many things, but he's never implied that OSU is the greatest ever at anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Collins
    Let's count the current number of players with criminal records
    , I don't think the forum database could handle that.
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  13. 03-23-2007 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptMike
    Or perhaps number of NBA players all time from each school.
    #1 - I brought Barry Sanders up as a joke, since he's the only decent to come out of your "wonderful" school.

    #2 - I'm not talking NFL, because then you would see more A&M players are in the league than your precious Cowpokes are

    #3 - A&M fans do not claim to have a "storied basketball tradition," watch games in a crappy old hole with a wrestling coach's name stamped on it, and any delusion at all that we have produced a lot of NBA players. But has our team been superior to yours for 2 years now? Yes. If Billy Gillespie stays do I see him creating quite a strong program in College Station:? No doubt about it.

    "Shock comic" was a dig at Michael Richards... stay out of WoW and up on current events.
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  14. 03-23-2007 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by leemajors
    Capt. Mike may say many things, but he's never implied that OSU is the greatest ever at anything.
    I disagree - just look at his RPI and "T. Boone donates more money" posts.
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  15. 03-23-2007 #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1369
    , I don't think the forum database could handle that.
    I meant from OSU but I dont think the database could handle that as well
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  16. 03-23-2007 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    (P.S. Desmond Mason doesn't count because having the worst shooting motion in the history of the NBA is not something to be proud of.)
    And by the way, D Mase has a higher shoot % than CP, Arenas, AI (both of them), Pierce, McGrady, Baron Davis, Crawford, Bibby, Billups, Hinrich, Starbury, Roy, S Jax, Raja Bell, TJ Ford, Kidd, Tinsley, Cassell, Sheed, Korver, Mobley, Antonio Daniels, Stackhouse, Peja, etc etc etc.

    Geez say something factual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1369
    Yes RM, crawfishing. You asked if OSU ever had a top 10 NBA draft pick and I gave you one (And I think the only one in the top 10).

    But it doesn't count because he was overrated (By a mile), injury prone, and had a crap career?

    Explain how his career post-draft has any implications on his top 10 selection.
    Because he was drafted by a franchise that had to move to Memphis of all places... hmmm, kind of ironic how that comes back full circle since A&M lost to a team last night that could probably beat the Grizzlies.

    Because he wasn't that good in college to begin with!!! Do you want me to rephrase it to "CaptMike wishes his basketball program produced a player who deserved to be a top 10 draft pick?" Because that will be pretty much what I said but in a more literal fashion to satisfy your desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    I disagree - just look at his RPI and "T. Boone donates more money" posts.
    the RPI thing has been beaten beyond death. i have argued back and forth with Capt. Mike on baseball for the last year and a half (he card fan, me astro), but this is beyond stupid at this point. if he doesn't think acie law will amount to poo, who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    I disagree - just look at his RPI and "T. Boone donates more money" posts.
    Go back and find it and show us all.
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    Let the pissing contest begin. I say we debate academics next, A&M vs OSU
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico
    Because he was drafted by a franchise that had to move to Memphis of all places... hmmm, kind of ironic how that comes back full circle since A&M lost to a team last night that could probably beat the Grizzlies.

    Because he wasn't that good in college to begin with!!! Do you want me to rephrase it to "CaptMike wishes his basketball program produced a player who deserved to be a top 10 draft pick?" Because that will be pretty much what I said but in a more literal fashion to satisfy your desires.
    So now it is who DESERVED to be a Top 10 pick.

    Did Manu deserve to be a Top 10 pick? Was he?

    Did Darko deserve to be a Top 10 pick?

    Wow, boy, you need more syrup for all your waffles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptMike
    And by the way, D Mase has a higher shoot % than CP, Arenas, AI (both of them), Pierce, McGrady, Baron Davis, Crawford, Bibby, Billups, Hinrich, Starbury, Roy, S Jax, Raja Bell, TJ Ford, Kidd, Tinsley, Cassell, Sheed, Korver, Mobley, Antonio Daniels, Stackhouse, Peja, etc etc etc.

    Geez say something factual.
    He didnt say % he said he had the worst shooting motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptMike
    And by the way, D Mase has a higher shoot % than CP, Arenas, AI (both of them), Pierce, McGrady, Baron Davis, Crawford, Bibby, Billups, Hinrich, Starbury, Roy, S Jax, Raja Bell, TJ Ford, Kidd, Tinsley, Cassell, Sheed, Korver, Mobley, Antonio Daniels, Stackhouse, Peja, etc etc etc.

    Geez say something factual.
    FT Percentage - 66%

    Career 3Pt% - 26%

    Both of those are lower than probably 95% of the players you mentioned above.

    FG percentage doesn't matter when your team only lets you shoot layups and dunks and Byron Scott will bench you if you shoot a 3 pointer - which probably explains why he's taken 0 this season for the first time in his career.

    Those are the facts, asshole.
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  24. 03-23-2007 #49
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    And shooting motion relates to... what exactly? Does he make it or not? Either it is a completely valid point or a completely stupid arguement, which it is.

    Next.
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  25. 03-23-2007 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Collins
    Let the pissing contest begin. I say we debate academics next, A&M vs OSU
    *Please don't bring up Dexter Manley, Please don't bring up Dexter Manley*
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