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    Saytowns Fawtbox King lebomb's Avatar
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    Dude you need to shut the up and give Kobe his props. Who cares if he's ball hogging? The Lakers are winning, and Kobe is doing some straight up incredible stuff right now. Hater.

    WHO GIVES TWO IF KOBE SCORES 100pts A GAME AND IT COUNTS FOR..................................."0"

    DUMBASS......basketball is a team game and its to win ships.....its not about points you idiot.

    Noone will give two s about this come July when the Lakers are bounced in the first round.....IF they make the playoffs.

    Hang on to your ball hoggin green light scoring........

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    Sorry, but Im NOT impressed with this run.
    if 50 point games dont impress you, then you might as well stop watching the NBA

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    WHO GIVES TWO IF KOBE SCORES 100pts A GAME AND IT COUNTS FOR..................................."0"
    actually they are winning games so it does count for something

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    if 50 point games dont impress you, then you might as well stop watching the NBA

    Didn't Kobe have some similar streak of games last year? What eventually happened to the Lakers last year?

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    I'd like to see hit 50 in games vs.


    Dallas
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    Houston
    Detroit


    Now THAT would be impressive!


    EDIT> I would have included Phoenix, but they don't seem to be concerned about other teams scoring on them.
    Umm 62 points against Dallas in 3 quarters remember.

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    if 50 point games dont impress you, then you might as well stop watching the NBA

    I'm sorry, but watching Kobe knock down 50 or 60 points against a team like Memphis (17-52) is like watching footage of Lebron from his high school days.

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    Didn't Kobe have some similar streak of games last year? What eventually happened to the Lakers last year?
    no he never had such streak

    they got eliminated. why? cause he didnt take as many shots and relied too much on his teammates. so how is passing the ball to his teammates all of a sudden going to make them better now?

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    LOL @ the people who say that others can hit 50-60 points if they took that many shots. I doubt Wade and Lebron and Arenas can do what Kobe did with that many attempts. Did you see thh Defense they give to this guy...do u see the insane shots he is making. Sorry...but if other players take that many shots..they'll brick more than half of them.

    Also...When wade scores 40+...he has 25 FT's...kobe can score 60 with 20 FT.

    Lets place some perspective and logic please.

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    LOL @ the people who say that others can hit 50-60 points if they took that many shots. I doubt Wade and Lebron and Arenas can do what Kobe did with that many attempts. Did you see thh Defense they give to this guy...do u see the insane shots he is making. Sorry...but if other players take that many shots..they'll brick more than half of them.

    Also...When wae scores 40+...he has 25 FT's...kobe can score 60 with 20 FT.

    Lets place some perspective and logic please.

    My whole point is that, YES, Kobe is a really really good player, maybe the best individual player.

    But, is this really news to anyone? He's been playing at a high level for a long time and it isn't ALWAYS to the team's benefit.

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    I'm sorry, but watching Kobe knock down 50 or 60 points against a team like Memphis (17-52) is like watching footage of Lebron from his high school days.
    Then why dont Lebron score 50 or 60 on memphis?

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    My whole point is that, YES, Kobe is a really really good player, maybe the best individual player.

    But, is this really news to anyone? He's been playing at a high level for a long time and it isn't ALWAYS to the team's benefit.
    I dunno man..last time i checked they were like losing 7 games in a row and also had a bad February and March. Who is to say that this is the only way fo the team to make the playoffs. As long as they are winning, i cant knock it.

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    My whole point is that, YES, Kobe is a really really good player, maybe the best individual player.
    then this argument is closed.

    his team schmucks. we know they wont win a championship they arent good enough. but thats not the point of the thread. the argument was whether he was really that good by determining the number of his shot attempts, not how far his team will go. and since you admitted he is the best player then we are done here.

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    I guarantee you.....the other players on the Lakers team are like....."that ball hoggin mufacka" They just wont say anything because of Phil.

    Shaq said this......Kobe plays one on one.....

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    then this argument is closed.

    his team schmucks. we know they wont win a championship they arent good enough. but thats not the point of the thread. the argument was whether he was really good enough by looking at his shot attempts not how far his team will go. and since you admitted he is the best player then we are done here.
    I agree...we can say that this isnt good for the team...but what exactly is good for this crappy Lakers team. If kobe doesnt do this...they fall straight to the lottery. AND the very same people who is calling Kobe a BALLHOG will be the same people who says he cant carry his team to the playoffs.

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    Then why dont Lebron score 50 or 60 on memphis?

    Because he is a TEAM player.....and tries to get the team involved.......not one on one......that does NOT work in the long run.

    Ask Michael Jordan.....didnt win scoring 50-60 on his own.....needed a team with him.


    50-60pt games shooting 30-40 times a game.....thats BULL .

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    Because he is a TEAM player.....and tries to get the team involved.......not one on one......that does NOT work in the long run.

    Ask Michael Jordan.....didnt win scoring 50-60 on his own.....needed a team with him.


    50-60pt games shooting 30-40 times a game.....thats BULL .

    Now what happens if MJ doesnt have a team with him? Give up and whine to the lottery?
    BTW..fck the long run, the lakers need to win NOW!

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    People are going to discount Kobe's accomplishments because he's Kobe. You put the quality of talent around Manu or Tony that Kobe has around him, and that team is lucky to win 20 games. Kobe took a crap team to within a game of knocking Phoenix out of the playoffs last year. If a guy is hitting his shots at a 50%+ clip, going for 50+ a game, and winning these games, I'm pissed off if he's not shooting the ball all the time.

    To play the flip side, say Manu did shoot 30 times a game and go for 50 - you're full of it if you say you wouldn't be riding his jock.

    You can hate Kobe, but to say what he's doing isn't impressive is flat out asinine.

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    then this argument is closed.

    his team schmucks. we know they wont win a championship they arent good enough. but thats not the point of the thread. the argument was whether he was really that good by determining the number of his shot attempts, not how far his team will go. and since you admitted he is the best player then we are done here.


    am i seeing things or did a Mavfan just own everyone in this thread by actually using mature conduct?????

    i think the world must've stood still

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    People are going to discount Kobe's accomplishments because he's Kobe. You put the quality of talent around Manu or Tony that Kobe has around him, and that team is lucky to win 20 games. Kobe took a crap team to within a game of knocking Phoenix out of the playoffs last year. If a guy is hitting his shots at a 50%+ clip, going for 50+ a game, and winning these games, I'm pissed off if he's not shooting the ball all the time.

    To play the flip side, say Manu did shoot 30 times a game and go for 50 - you're full of it if you say you wouldn't be riding his jock.

    You can hate Kobe, but to say what he's doing isn't impressive is flat out asinine.


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    ???? NAry a laker fan to be found in this thread????

    Anytime you are up there w/ Wilt it is something spectacular IMO........... It will not get him a le or MVP...............

    One question I think needs to be asked though. WHy in the playoffs against the Suns did he just hold the ball.............. Pass the ball etc & not shoot???

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    This is my last comment........


    Im just not impressed with a player scoring 50-60pts a games......shooting the ball 30-40 times and going to the freethrow everytime the wind blows.....its bull , and most top tier players could do it every game if given the green light (to shut out their teammates on shots).

    Thats how I feel and thats my final thought on this bull .

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    Because he is a TEAM player.....and tries to get the team involved.......not one on one......that does NOT work in the long run.

    Ask Michael Jordan.....didnt win scoring 50-60 on his own.....needed a team with him.


    50-60pt games shooting 30-40 times a game.....thats BULL .
    yeah team player on a team thats offense strategy is to seperate the floor so lebron can play one on one.
    also the lebron that takes an alley-hoop away from his own teammate


    lets see here... Phil says "Kobe score more earlier" kobe starts shooting ~30 shots a game scoring 50+pts with FG% over 50%.
    funny how kobe gets crap for not winning when playing the team game and is called a dirty player but when he scores like hes told he gets crap. lose lose situation if you ask me.

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    I'd like to see hit 50 in games vs.


    Dallas
    San Antonio
    Houston
    Detroit


    Now THAT would be impressive!


    EDIT> I would have included Phoenix, but they don't seem to be concerned about other teams scoring on them.
    Kobe put up 62 points on Dallas through 3 quarters, IIRC.

    If you really think what Kobe is doing isn't impressive, even against bad teams, you're ing stupid. He's miles ahead of anyone on that team and he's the first, second, and third option. They lost 7 in a row with Kobe playing "team ball" and now they've won 4 in a row because Kobe is unstoppable.

    Give him some respect. I'm sure if Tim Duncan was doing this, you wouldn't be ripping on him. And , I don't even like Kobe, but props are due when they're earned.

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    WHO GIVES TWO IF KOBE SCORES 100pts A GAME AND IT COUNTS FOR..................................."0"

    DUMBASS......basketball is a team game and its to win ships.....its not about points you idiot.

    Noone will give two s about this come July when the Lakers are bounced in the first round.....IF they make the playoffs.

    Hang on to your ball hoggin green light scoring........
    That's not what's in question here, dumb . What he's doing is EXTREMELY impressive, as in I think he's made history by doing this. Kobe knows how to play a team game but right now his team needs to win and that's what they're doing. I suppose you don't think David's 71, Wilt's 100, or Kobe's 81 were impressive at all either? Moron.

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    Ok, he took 29 shots last night to get 50. Let's look at some other players who have taken about 29 shots this season:

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061228/SEADEN/boxscore.html

    Allen Iverson, 29 shots, 44 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061118/PHILAC/boxscore.html

    Allen Iverson, 31 shots, 29 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061125/PHICLE/boxscore.html

    Allen Iverson, 28 shots, 31 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070321/DALCLE/boxscore.html

    LeBron James, 28 shots, 31 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070222/CHICLE/boxscore.html

    LeBron James, 28 shots, 29 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070111/CLEPHX/boxscore.html

    LeBron James, 28 shots, 34 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070302/HOUDEN/boxscore.html

    Carmelo Anthony, 28 shots, 30 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070126/DENUTA/boxscore.html

    Carmelo Anthony, 28 shots, 37 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061216/DENNYK/boxscore.html

    Carmelo Anthony, 29 shots, 34 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061128/MEMDEN/boxscore.html

    Carmelo Anthony, 30 shots, 37 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061103/MINDEN/boxscore.html

    Carmelo Anthony, 30 shots, 28 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070203/LALWAS/boxscore.html

    Gilbert Arenas, 29 shots, 37 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070115/UTAWAS/boxscore.html

    Gilbert Arenas, 29 shots, 51 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061218/WASDEN/boxscore.html

    Gilbert Arenas, 30 shots, 23 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061217/WASLAL/boxscore.html

    Gilbert Arenas, 32 shots, 60 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061209/HOUWAS/boxscore.html

    Gilbert Arenas, 30 shots, 41 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070311/SEATOR/boxscore.html

    Ray Allen, 28 shots, 36 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070202/CHISEA/boxscore.html

    Ray Allen, 28 shots, 29 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070131/SEAHOU/boxscore.html

    Ray Allen, 28 shots, 36 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070112/UTASEA/boxscore.html

    Ray Allen, 32 shots, 54 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061111/SEAATL/boxscore.html

    Ray Allen, 30 shots, 33 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070305/HOUCLE/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 32 shots, 25 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070223/HOUATL/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 28 shots, 37 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070116/HOUDAL/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 29 shots, 45 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070108/HOUCHI/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 29 shots, 31 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070107/HOUMIN/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 29 shots, 31 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070105/UTAHOU/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 31 shots, 44 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061231/MEMHOU/boxscore.html

    Tracy McGrady, 30 shots, 38 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061207/MIASAC/boxscore.html

    Dwyane Wade, 27 shots, 32 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061205/MIALAC/boxscore.html

    Dwyane Wade, 27 shots, 33 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061222/LALNJN/boxscore.html

    Vince Carter, 30 shots, 33 points

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061211/MEMNJN/boxscore.html

    Vince Carter, 30 shots, 37 points



    Out of those great scorers, only Gilbert Arenas and Ray Allen have been able to hit the 50 point mark with about 29 shots this season. It's not that easy. How many of them could have done it in four straight games? None.
    And by the way, lebomb, this guy owned your ass. Why did your argument go from 29 shots and everyone getting 50 points, to 30-40 shots?

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