What teams will pull an upset in the 1st round?

[ratm1221]

Man, you're one of those that makes all Mavs fans look like ing morons. Thanks, dude.

Chick, you don't need my help to look like a moron. If you would lay off some of the butt kissing in the spurs forum, you might find some humor in a few of the posts.

[SpursDynasty]

or even worse in 2006 people thought the Mavs upsetting the Spurs thats rich...

oh wait that happened

if the Lakers can get Odom back to normal and play like they did earlier in the year i would pick them to beat SA as well, but with the way they are playing now? no, they need more work if they want to pull the upset

That wasn't an upset. That was a fluke. Won't happen this year. The wrong team won. The minute Dallas advanced, I knew they wouldn't go all the way, and they didn't. Miami did, and Miami just went out and beat a team they were supposed to beat.

[DubMcDub]

That wasn't an upset. That was a fluke. Won't happen this year. The wrong team won. The minute Dallas advanced, I knew they wouldn't go all the way, and they didn't. Miami did, and Miami just went out and beat a team they were supposed to beat.

This guy is a pretty good example of why San Antonio could really use another sports team or two to keep people from getting so hilariously emotionally invested in the Spurs...

[SpursDynasty]

This guy is a pretty good example of why San Antonio could really use another sports team or two to keep people from getting so hilariously emotionally invested in the Spurs...

You're only saying that because your team didn't win last year

[DubMcDub]

You're only saying that because your team didn't win last year

I fail to see how the Mavericks being champions or not being champions has any bearing on my (correct) perception of many Spurs fans--such as yourself--as being so emotionally wrapped up in their team that they live in a world of rather amusing denial.

What's particularly funny about you is that your denial extends far beyond the Spurs themselves.

[SpursDynasty]

I fail to see how the Mavericks being champions or not being champions has any bearing on my (correct) perception of many Spurs fans--such as yourself--as being so emotionally wrapped up in their team that they live in a world of rather amusing denial.

What's particularly funny about you is that your denial extends far beyond the Spurs themselves.

This statement still doesn't change who won the Finals last year. Get over it

[DubMcDub]

This statement still doesn't change who won the Finals last year. Get over it

...it's really quite impressive that you've managed to have a "conversation" with me without making a single comment relevant to anything I've said.

[SpursDynasty]

...it's really quite impressive that you've managed to have a "conversation" with me without making a single comment relevant to anything I've said.

Well, you haven't said anything relative to what I've said either. You've been babbling about Spurs fans being too emotional or something.

And it all stemmed from me saying that when Dallas beat SA last year, I knew Dallas wouldn't go all the way (Which happened - So....)

I guess I'm too emotionally involved with the Spurs now!

[DubMcDub]

Well, you haven't said anything relative to what I've said either. You've been babbling about Spurs fans being too emotional or something.

And it all stemmed from me saying that when Dallas beat SA last year, I knew Dallas wouldn't go all the way (Which happened - So....)

I guess I'm too emotionally involved with the Spurs now!

No, it stemmed from many of the other ridiculous remarks you made. If you "knew" such and such would happen (which, by the way, you can only say in retrospect cause the fact is that nobody knows jack about what will happen in sports...i bet you "knew" the Spurs would beat the Mavs), good for you. Props.

But my comments have to do with the fact that your points are completely illogical and based solely on the fact that your poor little Spurs couldn't live up to the "just wait until the playoffs roll around" talk that permeated these boards for months and months last season and you're STILL apparently upset about it.

[SpursDynasty]

No, it stemmed from many of the other ridiculous remarks you made. If you "knew" such and such would happen (which, by the way, you can only say in retrospect cause the fact is that nobody knows jack about what will happen in sports...i bet you "knew" the Spurs would beat the Mavs), good for you. Props.

But my comments have to do with the fact that your points are completely illogical and based solely on the fact that your poor little Spurs couldn't live up to the "just wait until the playoffs roll around" talk that permeated these boards for months and months last season and you're STILL apparently upset about it.

My point of thinking Dallas wouldn't go all the way after SA was based on the fact that Dallas has a history of being soft and breaking town in tight situations in the playoffs - which continued last year - not because of me being emotionally involved too much with whatever. I didn't make Dallas lose in the Finals because I was upset over them winning against SA - They lost all on their own

[ponky]

hilarious how insecure SpursDynasty is about his team. when mavs win it's a fluke. when spurs lose it's a, it's, help me out here SpursDynasty.

[ponky]

My point of thinking Dallas wouldn't go all the way after SA was based on the fact that Dallas has a history of being soft and breaking town in tight situations in the playoffs - which continued last year - not because of me being emotionally involved too much with whatever. I didn't make Dallas lose in the Finals because I was upset over them winning against SA - They lost all on their own

whereas the spurs have been on a roll since 1999 and have won 7 straight championships. with one exception, the mavs have continued to improve each year that they've been in the playoffs during the nellie/aj coaching time periods. i'm not about to deny that the spurs are a very good team this year and, along with maybe 3-4 other teams, have a great chance of winning the championship but you are freakin' delusional if you can't look past the spurs and at least acknowledge that other teams have a chance of winning, including the mavericks. there's nothing wrong with being a homer if it's your thing but to act like everyone else sucks makes you look like nothing but a moron.

[DubMcDub]

My point of thinking Dallas wouldn't go all the way after SA was based on the fact that Dallas has a history of being soft and breaking town in tight situations in the playoffs - which continued last year - not because of me being emotionally involved too much with whatever. I didn't make Dallas lose in the Finals because I was upset over them winning against SA - They lost all on their own

Your comments about "Miami was just beating a team that they should beat" reek of the standard bitterness of Spurs fan who is emotionally crippled about his Spurs bowing out.

I understand it. San Antonio is a one horse town. Your horse dies and you feel insecure so you make ridiculous comments. Half the Spurs posters on here are guilty of it.

As to your specific comment, no, Miami was not simply "beating a team they should beat". Miami was not favored in the series. You wouldn't find an NBA analyst or impartial basketball fan anywhere who would tell you that, before the series, Miami "should beat Dallas".

As it happened, they did, but make no mistake--what Miami did was an upset. Not a monumental one, but an small upset nonetheless. It's pretty hilarious to hear you claim otherwise and try to discount the Mavs as a team that was somehow clearly inferior to the Heat before the series even started (much like I'm sure you would have claimed them clearly inferior to the Spurs before that series).

[THE SIXTH MAN]

I understand it. San Antonio is a one horse town. Your horse dies and you feel insecure so you make ridiculous comments. Half the Spurs posters on here are guilty of it.

I'm in no way defending spursdynasty in any way. But I just had to comment on this ridiculous statement that you've made a couple of times in this thread which is very weak. 1.You're assuming that the people that post here are all from San Antonio. Which is far from the truth, there's a lot of mav fans that post here that aren't even from the Dallas area. 2. Since when do you have to live in a city or be from it to root for a certain team? Uninformed blanket statements like this make you look like an

[DubMcDub]

I'm in no way defending spursdynasty in any way. But I just had to comment on this ridiculous statement that you've made a couple of times in this thread which is very weak. 1.You're assuming that the people that post here are all from San Antonio. Which is far from the truth, there's a lot of mav fans that post here that aren't even from the Dallas area. 2. Since when do you have to live in a city or be from it to root for a certain team? Uninformed blanket statements like this make you look like an

I'd venture a guess that around half the posters on here live in or near SA. And I said half the posters on here exhibit such a reaction.

I didn't say everyone. It may not apply to you, it may not apply to people you know who root for the Spurs, it may not apply to many, many people on these boards. But it does apply to a lot of other people. I've been to plenty of games at the ATT Center and I've seen a great sampling over the years of what Spurs fans who live in SA can be like when it comes to their team losing/not performing to expectations.

I do agree with you about blanket statements, and I'm sorry if I came off that way.

[SpursDynasty]

I find it funny how people get mad at me for saying "A team they're supposed to beat". Miami with Wade are a very good basketball club. They play defense. Dallas did too, until the Finals, which is why defense wins championships and still does, and the defensive team is supposed to win the series.

It doesn't matter who the media thinks is the favorite. The media's favorite has not won since 2002.

Lakers were the media favorite in 2003 and 2004, in 2005 the Pistons were the favorite, and in 2006 the Mavs were the favorite. Also, since 2002 the NBA Champion has never been respected. It's like the league can't make up its mind on who the new monster is since LA's run ended in 2002. The media is always wrong. It does not matter who is "favored" in the series. If you watch without getting brainwashed by commentators, you know very well who you think should really win a series, not who they think should win a series.

So Dallas fans, you can get off our backs now if you really feel your team will win the championship. I don't.

[THE SIXTH MAN]

I do agree with you about blanket statements, and I'm sorry if I came off that way.

Not a problem.

[DubMcDub]

I find it funny how people get mad at me for saying "A team they're supposed to beat". Miami with Wade are a very good basketball club. They play defense. Dallas did too, until the Finals, which is why defense wins championships and still does, and the defensive team is supposed to win the series.

It doesn't matter who the media thinks is the favorite. The media's favorite has not won since 2002.

Lakers were the media favorite in 2003 and 2004, in 2005 the Pistons were the favorite, and in 2006 the Mavs were the favorite. The media is always wrong. It does not matter who is "favored" in the series. If you watch without getting brainwashed by commentators, you know very well who you think should really win a series, who they think should win a series.

"The media is always wrong." Except for all those times when the favorite does win.

And it wasn't just the media. Sports bookies, fans of other teams, even most Spurs fans (who had more reason than anyone to want the Mavs to lose) figured the Mavs would take it.

Not only that, but the Mavs had a better record, home court advantage, and played in a decidedly stronger conference.

Bottom line, there is absolutely no logical basis whatsoever--none--for saying that Miami "beat a team they should have beat". Miami was a great team and in retrospect played better throughout the series, but before the series the prevailing and correct notion was that the Mavs should have beat them, not the other way around.

[ponky]

lol, about the stereotyping of cities:

1. I LOVE San Antonio for its Tex-Mex and a distance second, Sea World.
2. I LOVE Dallas for the Mavericks and the Dallas Symphony.
3. Some Spurs fans get really drunk and are crazy screamers...or they are 50 year old Mexican ladies with Tim Duncan jerseys and all the accessories...beads, hats, buttons, beat stix, gotta love the enthusiasm.
4. Some Mavs fans are 20-30 year old upper middle class Texas boyz cussing out every Mavs player who makes a mistake or doesn't quickly pass the ball to Dirk or, they're 20-40 year old Barbie dolls chatting on the cell while sipping a $10 Heineken.

I don't live in either city (ATX here) but I'm closer to S.A. than Dallas and I can appreciate the two cities for their very different atmospheres.

Meanwhile, Spursdynasty continues to be the village idiot, regardless of the *village* we're talking about.

[td4mvp21]

Why ponky and DubMcDub even waste their time with SpursDynasty is beyond me .

[dirk4mvp]

Is a 5 beating a 4 really considered an upset?

[21_Blessings]

Well, not according to Kobe....



http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...ris&id=2810481

Thats because Kobe respects Bowen. But really, lets look at what Kobe has done to the Spurs this season.

13-25 34 pts Lakers win

12-19 34 pts Lakers win

13-25 31 pts Spurs win (OT Lakers choked lead)

Kobe basically got whatever he wanted in those games and even held back a bit since he was in facilitator mode. Bowen really isn't what he used to be.

Spurs (and fans) shouldn't act so y though. If the Lakers hadn't gotten hit with the injury bug they would be a 50 win team easy. I'd expect a really entertaining series.

[DubMcDub]

Why ponky and DubMcDub even waste their time with SpursDynasty is beyond me .

Why not? It's amusing. I'm well aware that the general intelligence level of this board is far beyond what he exhibits....so it's fine.