Animation of the 281 Toll Freeway North of 1604

[Zombie]

I thought the post before the last post was the "last" post. Way to keep your word.

Oh i'm sorry, you gonna call the "keep my word police" on me?

[kfedFAN]

regardless of what its called...freeway, highway, whatever...

i think we all agree somehow, some way, it needs to be improved to stop all the congestion.

bottom line looks like funding is not and will not be there.

so gotta move to plan b

toll it up

do what you must

but stop the congestion.

[Buddy Holly]

where in the would you hear freeway 281? No one said FLOWING highway so STFU and go look at some old pics of SA.

Probably in California where its normal for the use of freeway. Some in other parts of the US say Expressway or Express.

They're basically interchangeable words. Like asking for pop when you want a coke.

You're the one being anal and trying your damnest to argue semantics.

[T Park]

regardless of what its called...freeway, highway, whatever...

i think we all agree somehow, some way, it needs to be improved to stop all the congestion.

bottom line looks like funding is not and will not be there.

so gotta move to plan b

toll it up

do what you must

but stop the congestion.

theres plenty of money being blown in the forum of social pork barrel bull that is on the dockett that could be allocated.

Move it around.

Paying twice for a goddamn road is beyond annoying

[KEDA]

question for those ing so loudly about the 281/1604 toll road issue.

how many of you guys actually drive in that area on a daily basis?

I do, every day at least twice a day, and yeah having to pay to drive on a road sucks, but I am more than willing to pay for it if it means that the traffic situation will be relieved. With the addition of 2 more traffic lights in the past 2 months there are now 7 stop lights on Hwy 281 between 1604 and the Bexar/Comal county line. What used to take me 20 minutes to get into San Antonio now takes me over 45. And getting home at 5 pm is well over an hour and a half. And with the new retail development at Stone Oak, this is just going to get MUCH worse before it gets any better, and if a toll road is the answer to traffic relief, the Ill pay for it.

[1369]

^^^
What he said.

And they need to privatize the as well so it can be built sometime before 2050.

[CrazyOne]

(Note to self: When people fight over the definition of highway, hit page down repeatedly to avoid permanent vegetative state.)

[Extra Stout]

When you get in an argument with a high-functioning autistic over the definition of a word, you have already lost.

[101A]

My grandfather lives in Bulverde, and has FOREVER (Turn Left right after Mouse's - by the boat place). Anyway, I can remember in the late '70's riding my BICYCLE from ther, and meeting my dad at the intersection of 1604 & 281 - before McCallister was extended all the way out....

Grew up in Helotes - in '77 there was ONE stop light between 410 and Floore's Country Store - and that was at Wurzbach, now there's, what, 25?

I solved ALL the traffic problems, however; moved to a small town in economically blighted Western Pennsylvania.

Toll Roads Suck, btw; but it's gonna happen.

[johnsmith]

Can't wait.

[johnsmith]

Considering 281 north of 1604 isn't a highway and nothing more than a four lane parking lot with stop lights every half mile, I don't see why turning it into a 8 lane freeway with three lane frontage roads, which will be free to drive, is such a horrible idea. I mean we can leave 281 the way it is now for the next, I don't know 20 years if you'd like.

Well put.

[scott]

Use the ing tax dollars that we already pay for this.

Quit blowing our goddamn money on pork, and use it on something usefull.

Novel idea.

Repeating the same misconception about something you clearly know nothing about doesn't eventually make it true.

[Buddy Holly]

Repeating the same misconception about something you clearly know nothing about doesn't eventually make it true.

Exactly.

[scott]

That goes for you too.

[Buddy Holly]

That goes for you too.

About what exactly?