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Oh man, unbelievable.
Tony had a great night and we needed it from him for sure with Brent out and Manu hurting/struggling. I will say this much though... Tony was on the floor for 33 of his 41 minutes with Tim. Manu played with Tim for 10 of his 24 minutes. The results would be interesting if those two ratios were reversed.
Tony still gets no respect from the Suns. I remember last year (in a regular season game) he killed them with his jumpshot. Because they dared him to shoot.
Our big 3 >>>>>>>> than their big 3, and they always forget that.
As for Manu. I thought he did good on the other things, but he was definitely out of rhythm early on, with foul trouble, and then getting hurt.
Manu was pretty easy to defend because he was the only one the D had to focus on.
Plus, he didn't get any calls to go his way that night
aaron just can't help it...
You guys got him all self-conscious!
On the season, Manu's stats are slightly worse when he plays with Duncan on the court compared to Duncan off the court.
Oops.
That means Duncan's stealing touches from Manu!On the season, Manu's stats are slightly worse when he plays with Duncan on the court compared to Duncan off the court.
Oops.
and yet no one says a word!
Dude, tell me I'm wrong. Obviously it benefits anyone to play with Tim. Manu played more without him today than with him and often has to play without Tony as well. He's out there in the beginning of the 2nd and 4th with scrub units and then people go off on him for struggling when all a defense has to do is trap him and make him give it up.
Does Pop ever put Tony out there "naked" for more than a minute or two a game?
True, but I think it'd be easier if Pop at least has Manu with Tim or Tony, because Manu has had it harder when he has a bunch of scrubs around him.
Tony usually plays with Tim I think, because he starts, so their minutes match up.
but then again, maybe Pop is just stupid over his rotations. I didn't understand the Vaughn Tony tandem at all.
I think also. Pop needs to make up plays where Manu can get around the traps, or at least, adjust the Manu + 4 scrub lineup, because the teams apparently are calling the Manu trap a lot, in terms answering the "Bench Manu Solution"
Awesome point@! two years ago i waz sayin tony and manu werent without timmy.......but now theyre much better but i dont think
Manu is +374 playing with Tim and +87 without him.
Tony is +423 playing with Tim (620 more minutes) and -33 without him.
On the year, Manu averages more points, rebounds and assists while shooting a higher percentage with Tim off the floor. Tim averages his least amount of points per minute when paired with any teammate when he's paired with Manu.
Perhaps The Church has picked the wrong Anti-Christ.
I actually like Finley starting. I'd prefer to see it continue. I'd like to see Manu playing some with Brent in those 4 minutes to begin the 2nd and 4th to see how teams would change their defensive strategies. Maybe we could burn their trap by having Brent hit some threes. Or since he's a better passer than Fin, we could exploit it with some more passing after the initial pass.
You are talking stats here, not +/-. You pinned the blame of Manu's sub par game on Pop not playing him enough with Tim. Remember?
WOW awesome stat............Thanks cuz im 2 drunk to find that shizzit
Of course he does. He HAS to. He plays with complete scrubs. But it's still not the best line-up as far as winning and losing. Manu is +14.9 a game with Tim vs. +12.7 overall. The only guy outside of Tim his +/- is higher with is Vaughn.
On the year, Manu averages more points, rebounds and assists while shooting a higher percentage with Tim off the floor. Tim averages his least amount of points per minute when paired with any teammate when he's paired with Manu.
Perhaps The Church has picked the wrong Anti-Christ.
So what happened this game and how are you using that as an excuse?
I don't care about Manu's individual stats. I care about the team. I think it'd be better for the team for them to play together more. Either Manu plays alone or he plays with both of them.
When two of the big three play together, it's usually Tim/Tony. I'd like to see a little more Tim/Manu, that's all.
He sucked this game. He was pretty awful offensively. No denying it. He was being trapped pretty aggressively and Tony and Fin had it going so Pop went with them. I hope his shoulder is okay.
Most important note in this thread.
Tim and Manu have been the two guys on the team to consistently make their teammates better all season, but I just think that Pop is taking Manu for granted a lot of the time playing him with scrubs and assuming things won't go to for those 4 minute stretches. It took a while, but it looks like teams have figured out how to defend the 2nd unit by trapping Manu and making the other four beat them.
Even when Manu had that good game against the Jazz, it was because he, Tim and Tony all had really good chemistry together that night.
Yeah...
hopefully we can get an update on the "severity" of his injury, or if it was just a hard fall.
It was pretty scary for a moment.
I think that's a valid argument, but I'm pretty sure some of Manu's play was because he decided to pack it in, after the first half took him out of his game.
He had four fouls, and he preferred to defer or make a play, rather than score or attack the basket.
Plus he's 3 G's (besides the first one) seemed off after his shoulder got banged up. It looked like he missed wide open shots that usually would swish. I thought he had it going when he made that one early on. But his offensive game pretty much disappeared after the first half.
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