Scared them...because, taking out Saddam, sent the message that if this continues, we're going to take you out, no matter how well you think your subterfuge is disguised.
No..but installing liberalize governments in the mid-east will go a long way towards solving the problems of modern terrorism.yes, attacking saudi would solve the worlds problems
Iraq was attacked because they had WMDs remember? oh wait..
yes, we must lack the intelligence to understand this mumbo jumbo
Seriously...you just don't get it.
As evidenced by the fact that you want to create another Afghanistan by pulling out. Only this time...they'll have money.
Whether Saddam had WMD or not....he needed to be taken out for his own actions...and we had legal recourse to do it....and the message it sent was an invaluable one. As are the gains made by installing an Arab Democracy(as opposed to a European Jew one) in the middle east.
And anyone that says he's going to nuke mecca if an American city gets suicide nuked, has my vote in the next election.
I gurantee you that if we get nuked it won't be by a Sunni.
THe first Mullah that calls for that will have his head cut off by King Abdullah himself.
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And BTW, this is midleading...Shiites do not call for a pull out...Sadr is calling for a pull out.
Just the fact that he has representatives within the government that heel like a dog on his command openly and blatantly, tells you he is part of the problem.
Scared them...because, taking out Saddam, sent the message that if this continues, we're going to take you out, no matter how well you think your subterfuge is disguised.
No..but installing liberalize governments in the mid-east will go a long way towards solving the problems of modern terrorism.
yes, we must lack the intelligence to understand this mumbo jumbo
sorry but it's you who doesn't get it. Create democracies in the middle east and who do you think those people will elect? they will elect religious and traditional leaders, because that's what most arabs are.
and a religious and traditional leader will always have a problem with US. so your solution to install liberal democratic goverments is completely off.
installing that will still not change the way they think. they will still hate the US. regardless. you cannot scare or make someone like you. you can't.
Wrong...you are ignorant of the state of the Middle East as recently as 40 years ago. Before the Russians ed everything up.
They invented Democracy.
Oh yes it will...installing that will still not change the way they think. they will still hate the US. regardless. you cannot scare or make someone like you. you can't.
And they don't hate the US, they envy it.
If they hate the US they sure can't get the over here fast enough.
Sorry but you have an overly simplistic view of things.
There are two people that know for a fact you have only looked at these issues superficially...I am talking to one of them, and you are talking to the other, the huge sweeping gaps in historical knowledge, and oversimplification of an extremely complex problem, are obvious to one who has...I suggest you actually take it upon yourself to become more educated on the subject than what you learn from the latest CNN newsblurb.
Religious fanatacism is an act of desperation, borne out of hopelessness...
I’m lazy with links. But it was claimed many times that Saddam had ties to AQ. Ask Yoni, he still believes it.
Iran and NK have, or are in the process of acquiring, nuclear capabilities. When is the US invading them?
Even though you hate it, you use it as one of the excuses the US invaded Iraq. Makes sense.
Relevance?
Why? I don’t give up on you even though 90% of the posters have.
Enlighten me.
You are talking about the entire ME and parts of Asia, right?
Just like any other market. Supply and demand. But feel free to enlighten me.
whottt, if the Iraq invasion’s objective was to liberalize the hard-line governments in the ME, tell your boy Bush to simply come out and say so and cut the WMDs and other crap he has been spouting for the last 6 years.
If you think what Iraq is governed by is a democracy, you are not playing with a full squad.
Two word for you: North Korea.
Kim Jung Ill's troillets are also made of gold, fitted with diamonds.
That's Yoni's problem...and yours.
There is a major difference between having them, and in the process of acquiring them...surely you see the difference there?
Iran and NK have, or are in the process of acquiring, nuclear capabilities. When is the US invading them?
And Iran likely will get the bombed out of it before it's allowed to happen.
Even though you hate it, you use it as one of the excuses the US invaded Iraq. Makes sense.
The Cease fire agreement was with us...not the UN.
And yes...I hate the UN because it lacks the balls to enforce it's own resolutions...it does nothing.
No scratch that...it's corrupt. It's quite possibly the most corrupt international body in the world.
And we pay for it...and they do like put Saudi Arabia on the Human Rights Commitee.
And even if the UN had fully supported us...who the do you think would have been doing the fighting? Argentina?
Reasons why America hates the UN? And why flowers don't shoot out of it's ass?Relevance?
Ok...a defacto state of war existed with the United States, from the moment Saddam violated it...about 1992.Enlighten me.
It's a globally traded commodity...Just like any other market. Supply and demand. But feel free to enlighten me.
You Argies drive cars?
Well ya'll are probably getting it cheap from Hugo, for now. Cheap depending on how much you like being able to pursude your own future,.
The discount Oil was being given under the UN program...
The only Oil gain the US has out of this is...nothing.
We aren't even getting the post development deals.
whottt, if the Iraq invasion’s objective was to liberalize the hard-line governments in the ME, tell your boy Bush to simply come out and say so and cut the WMDs and other crap he has been spouting for the last 6 years.
Because that would pretty much destroy any chance we have of being successful at that goal.
What makes you think stating your war plan is an effective way to win it?
If I tell someone I am going to punch them in the face, don't you think that decreases my chances of being successful?
DoI really have to explain this?
Hey...why doesn't Pop just announce his game plan for the Mavs...
If you think what Iraq is governed by is a democracy, you are not playing with a full squad.
It is 100% governed by a Democracy...one that is supported by the majority of Iraqis...
It's corrupt..but transparently so.
It's also fledegling...these things take decades to develop...not months.
Has nuclear weapons...Two word for you: North Korea.
Pursuing nukes...has them...
Do you see the difference smeagol?
Kim Jung Ill's troillets are also made of gold, fitted with diamonds.
AndI bet you think we should just leave him in power right?
Oh my bad...you think we should just invade him, because you can't tell the difference between, having nukes, and pursuing them....
You also can't tell the difference between, supported by China...and supported by Syria.
Major differences...If you don't see them...it's your vision that is bad...not mine.
sorry but if you can't accept the fact that most arabs over there hate the US, I can't argue with you
I will let you get caught up...
Link to prove most Arabs over here hate the US?
The only people that truly hate the US are the ex commie sore losers over in Europe...and the Islamic Fundamentalists...the majority of which were pulled off the streets homless in Pakistan and Saudi and raised in the Wahabi Madrassas'. Raised to believe nuclear holocaust is god's divine plan for men...
Oh..and Democrats.
You should visit LatAm . . .
Apparently, Whott hasn't travelled extensively or lived outside of USA.
Typical myopic, chauvinsitic view that the entire planet just loves USA.
when is the last time you traveled overseas???
About 5 years ago...I went to Russia...St. Petersburg and Moscow.
when is the last time you traveled overseas???
And I don't suppose the irony of the fact that some idiot named cheguevera is second guessing me, is getting through to you, is it?
So, is the Iraq government asking us to leave?
No, it's Muqtada "Iranian Vacation" Sadr's gang.
On a side note, I wish all those countries that hate us so much would quit accepting our foreign aid.
And the vice-president's.
Vice President Cheney repeated his assertions of Al Qaeda links to Saddam Hussein's Iraq on Thursday as the Defense Department released a report citing more evidence that the prewar government did not cooperate with the terrorist group.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed
Published April 7, 2007
things have changed a LOT in the the last 5 years.(coincidence? not!) you'd be surprised.
you can insult me if you want. but that doesn't change the fact, you have no idea the state of the world today.And I don't suppose the irony of the fact that some idiot named cheguevera is second guessing me, is getting through to you, is it?
Did you take a plane?
As opposed to the myopic chauvinistic view that they all hate us?
If you listen to liberals...Kerry won in 04. Blair and Howard were voted out...Shroeder and Chiraq will be re-elected.
Stop claiming you speak for everyone, when in fact, you don't even speak for the majority of Americans.
BTW, boutons, the fact you threatened me the other day wasn't lost on me...
I literally have nothing to say to you anymore....
And the fact that you can be provoked into a threat by words on a message board proves what a mentally weak you are.
GFY and don't bother replying anymore unless you want to be ignored.
To Moscow yeah...a Russian one.
I also got my wallet stolen, and got to eat some of the tiest food ever created(I'd be an asshole too if I had to eat beets all the time).
And when was the last time you went there?
[you can insult me if you want. but that doesn't change the fact, you have no idea the state of the world today.
Dude...you call yourself Cheguervara...you're an idiot of rare caliber. I don't care if you believe me or want to discuss it or not.
You call yourself Cheguevara.
So let me get this straight...boutons and cheguevara have been to every country in the world in the past 5 years and thus are qualified to speak...
Meanwhile...immigration numbers rule.
hehe actually I'm more glad today that I have that login name. As it amuses so much ppl like you
What you need to give me is the link to Cheney saying we invaded Iraq because they were behind 911.
hehe actually I'm more glad today that I have that login name. As it amuses so much ppl like you
What amused me was this:
Thank you Che...I know, not in Europe...point remains.The only people that truly hate the US are the ex commie sore losers over in Europe
I thank you for your quick response.
so you call me a commie cause I like che guevara
how close minded are you dude, it's kinda pathetic
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