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mailman was a mvp candiate
and stockton was a top point guard
2 very good players even though I can not stand the mailman
I think you misread my quote. I was saying that Pop isn't afraid to go scout and sign some guy from nowhere, while other coaches might now, but he sees what they don't -- that they have talent to play and he can mold that talent into skill and into an effiecent NBA player.
mailman was a mvp candiate
and stockton was a top point guard
2 very good players even though I can not stand the mailman
It's surprising to me that Pop has only won one Coach-of-the-Year award.
I'm not trying to say Sloan didn't have MVP candidates on his team at one point. I just think right now he is doing a good job of coaching a team without that kind of talent. I would like to see Pop try to do that, because it would be interesting to see how things would turn out.
pop would do about what sloan is doing
but I want spurs to win les so I want more talent onthe spurs
1. Red
2. Arrogant mustache
3. Pat Riley
4. Hubie
5. Pop
6. Chuck Daly
Hubie? Man STFU.
At least put Lenny Wilkens or someone deserving in there.
No way.
1. Phil Jackson
2. Red
3. Pat Riley
4. Popovich
5. Jerry Sloan
John Kundla (not Khundia) - 5 rings in 6 years with Minneapolis
Spurs are about to tie some kind of record for consective winning records on the road...
Winning on the road = coaching
They have finished in the top 5 on D, PPG allowed, Opp Assists Allowed and Opp FG%, like...8 or 9 years in a row...Ain't no player ever made a team that good defensively all on his own...that too is coaching. Any good defensive team is a well coached team.
So what are you saying? That he is the top 5 all by himself?
If not...well thanks for the spellcheck..anything else to add?
And yeah Pop had Duncan...and Auerbach had talented players, and so did Riley, and so did Jackson.
Even Khundia had talent.
The thing is...most coaches that coached for a while had a chance to coach an all time Superstar...they just didn't with them.
Other guys coached Jordan...they just didn't win with him.
Other guys coached Shaq besides Jackson...only Riley, who inarguably belongs on this list...won with him.
So I don't really think you can use the....never had talent....argument in favor of many coaches without rings, or those with only one or two rings.
Jerry Sloan...he had talent, he just didn't win with it. His players had a habit of cracking when faced with ultimate pressure...I think that's a weakness in his coaching.
True...it tended to be Karl Malone who folded more than Stockton...but still, Sloan had ample time to help Malone overcome being a choking and he wasn't able to do it...he's supposed to help playrs overcome stuff like that...Coaches are supposed to instill confidence.
I've watched Phil Jackson turn chokers into clutch players...I think that's an example of great coaching.
Last edited by whottt; 04-10-2007 at 11:52 PM.
I'm suggesting that Khundia isn't even phonetically close to Kundla, a legendary NBA coach. It's not like Greg instead of Gregg.
I'm sorry...I meant do you have anything relevant to add to the discussion Highjack D?
Since you are the only one who was actually alive when Khundia coached...perhaps you might find some form of relevance looking along those lines of thinking.
Bueno Suerte
I think Red Auerbank was good. You either know or you quote lists.
Hubie was a great coach ; coming out of retirement and win coach of the year at 102 y/o is pretty good
That's right ; bye; go back to the ESPN forums
I think Red Auerbank was good. You either know or you quote lists.
And I think we'd all be better served if you limited your posts to here:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21
Best to keep to your own kind...your ilk, as it were.
Oh what a burn
So tell me Spellcheck D...what's more annoying, Khundia?...or Lefty's sick infatuation with the semicolon?
I'd be real careful around a poster with colon infatuation...
There is no coach today, other than Phil, that demands the respect and profesionalism from his players like POP does. And the players respond. Not only that but add in his defensive scheme that has pretty much been successful ever since he started coaching this team and the three championships and I can't think of a coach who has been as effective so early in his coaching career. It's kind of like comparing TIm to the greats-to soon to tell with seemingly so much fuel still left in the tank.
The three that are ahead of Pop no questions asked are Phil, Red and Riley. It's tough to make an argument for anyone else.
Pop won a championship with a veteran laden team that played halfcourt all the time in 1999. He won a championship with a 20-year-old point guard, a virtual rookie at shooting guard and a foreign rookie as the sixth man in 2003. In 2005 he won with a team that was deadly on the fast break but could only go seven deep.
He's coached the best defensive teams of all-time. Sure he's had Duncan and Robinson, but he's turned very good players into all-stars (Parker, Ginobili) and bad players into decent role players (JJackson, Ferry, Elson).
The best thing about Pop is that he's a guy who can coach the same group of guys for a long time. He's not a Larry Brown or a George Karl who can only last in the same town for a couple seasons before the players turn on him.
Overall, I think at worst he's top seven. At best he's fourth.
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