MVP Debate Rages On

[mardigan]

It will probably be Dirk, and he deserves it. Although I think if Ihad a vote, it would go to T-Mac. The more I think about it the more I think he should win it

[JamStone]

If the Lakers were able to win 50 games this season, Kobe would win the MVP. Since they aren't going to, the MVP will likely go to Dirk. I think I'd still vote for Kobe though.

[Medvedenko]

Of course your team needs to win 50 games...but with the injuries they have had, getting to the playoffs is a feat in itself. Still, Dirk will get it and all will rejoice.

[RonMexico]

if he joins the ranks of Russell, Chamberlain, and Bird, that will be one of the biggest disgraces in the NBA.

Actually, one of the biggest and most shoking disgraces would be if Dirk managed to make a last-minute free throw...

Hey-O!!

[Kobulingam]

Dirk shouldn't win it. Mavs are a great team that aren't that dependent on Dirk. Minus Dirk, Mavs can beat 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

Minus Nash, Suns will lose to 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

Minus Kobe... wait. Lakers aren't a great team when Kobe plays so let's stop there.


MVP should be Nash.

Runner up: Dirk

Consideration to:
Kobe
Duncan
Bosh
Lebron (backspace a few times on this one)

[Findog]

Dirk shouldn't win it. Mavs are a great team that aren't that dependent on Dirk. Minus Dirk, Mavs can beat 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

Minus Nash, Suns will lose to 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

Minus Kobe... wait. Lakers aren't a great team when Kobe plays so let's stop there.


MVP should be Nash.

Runner up: Dirk

Consideration to:
Kobe
Duncan
Bosh
Lebron (backspace a few times on this one)

Ha! Mavs are a 45 win team in the West without Dirk, a 50 win team in the East. This is all just masturbation anyway -- the real question is, who's going to win the le?

[resistanze]

Dirk shouldn't win it. Mavs are a great team that aren't that dependent on Dirk. Minus Dirk, Mavs can beat 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

Minus Nash, Suns will lose to 75% of the teams in NBA in a 7 game series.

I don't see how many wins the Mavs would win w/o Dirk could be verified, it's all hypothetical. Personally I'd say they'd win about 45 games.

Regardless, I don't think that kind can be used for MVP voting. If that were the case, then Michael Jordan should've been blacklisted from winning the MVP after the Bulls won 55 games the year after he retired.

[LEONARD]

Mavs are a great team that aren't that dependent on Dirk.

[mardigan]

Ha! Mavs are a 45 win team in the West without Dirk, a 50 win team in the East. This is all just masturbation anyway -- the real question is, who's going to win the le?

They are 3 and 0 without him this season, and another 3 and 0 when he played 17 minutes or less, so I dont know about that

[Kobulingam]

The reason Dirk is getting TOO MUCH CREDIT for the Mavs this year is because other players like Josh Howard aren't getting enough credit.

If Dirk wins MVP he better announce that he's sharing it with JHo.

[monosylab1k]

it still amazes me that people are judging a player's MVP qualifications on what happens when he ISN'T on the court rather than what he does when he IS.

[mabber]

Actually, one of the biggest and most shoking disgraces would be if Dirk managed to make a last-minute free throw...

Hey-O!!

He's made several free throws in the last minute of games just in the last month. Plenty over the course of this season. What a disgrace!

[mardigan]

it still amazes me that people are judging a player's MVP qualifications on what happens when he ISN'T on the court rather than what he does when he IS.

I never said he shouldnt be the MVP, look back some posts. Im just replying to whoever said that they would be a 45 win team. They are six ond zero when he plays little or not at all. All I think that shows is how much better the rest of your team had gotten

[Kobulingam]

it still amazes me that people are judging a player's MVP qualifications on what happens when he ISN'T on the court rather than what he does when he IS.

If it's there to judge (6 game sample for Dirk is pretty good), then why not use it to see how the team plays without said player?

[monosylab1k]

If it's there to judge (6 game sample for Dirk is pretty good), then why not use it to see how the team plays without said player?

so next year Nash blows out his knee in the 5th game of the year and the Suns finish with 13 wins........that means Nash HAS GOT TO BE MVP because his team was so terrible without him....nevermind the fact that he didn't hardly play...he's obviously MVP right?

[RonMexico]

so next year Nash blows out his knee in the 5th game of the year and the Suns finish with 13 wins........that means Nash HAS GOT TO BE MVP because his team was so terrible without him....nevermind the fact that he didn't hardly play...he's obviously MVP right?

An unprecedented 4th time in a row!

[LEONARD]

If it's there to judge (6 game sample for Dirk is pretty good), then why not use it to see how the team plays without said player?

Should we include last night's game with the T-Wolves who didn't care and left KG on the bench??

[Kobulingam]

so next year Nash blows out his knee in the 5th game of the year and the Suns finish with 13 wins........that means Nash HAS GOT TO BE MVP because his team was so terrible without him....nevermind the fact that he didn't hardly play...he's obviously MVP right?

Did I say that?

A player still has to play in the majority of game in a season.

[mardigan]

Should we include last night's game with the T-Wolves who didn't care and left KG on the bench??

KG is hurt, probably done for the season

[RonMexico]

He's made several free throws in the last minute of games just in the last month. Plenty over the course of this season. What a disgrace!

And see what happened? Avery benched him. Haha.

[LEONARD]

KG is hurt, probably done for the season

Ah, the box score said "coach's decision" which I thought was odd...

Regardless, last night's "win without Dirk" is a little misleading if people are including it in the group. It's such a small sampling anyway...

[monosylab1k]

Did I say that?

A player still has to play in the majority of game in a season.

so what is it then? what he does on the court of what his team does when he's not on the court?

[Kobulingam]

Since Phoenix Suns and Dallas Mavericks are both going to finish with more than 60 wins, we shouldn't use # of wins to pick the MVP between Nash and Dirk. It would be ridiculous to pick Dirk because the Mavs have more wins than Suns (especially since Suns are going to finish #2!!! in the league).

So without using #wins, explain why Dirk is MVP based on 2007 regular season? Do the Dirk supporters think Billups should have won MVP last year? All Dirk-for-MVP supporters just got pwned.

[monosylab1k]

Since Phoenix Suns and Dallas Mavericks are both going to finish with more than 60 wins, we shouldn't use # of wins to pick the MVP between Nash and Dirk. It would be ridiculous to pick Dirk because the Mavs have more wins than Suns (especially since Suns are going to finish #2!!! in the league).

So without using #wins, explain why Dirk is MVP based on 2007 regular season? Do the Dirk supporters think Billups should have won MVP last year? All Dirk-for-MVP supporters just got pwned.

ever watched Nash try to play defense?

[dallaskd]

Dirk, but Nash will probably win.