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    They can send both rookies to the D league, right? And given his progress, it looks like Mahinmi probably won't be ready by October. I think the agents for Scola and Javtokas learned their lessons last year, so this will be their shot if they want to play here. I could have sworn Scola had signed an extension last year, though. I couldn't find info on it.

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    Im really glad to hear you guys say Butler was effective. I am really hoping that this guy can turn out to be something for us long term
    He's really really young, and he came right out of high school. Make sure you remember the "long term" part.

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    They can send both rookies to the D league, right?
    Any player in his first or second season in the NBA can be sent down.

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    Any player in his first or second season in the NBA can be sent down.
    Thank you, sir.

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    You bring over Mahinmi next season. Get him acclimated to the system. Under that #28 pick contact he'll cost you little for the next 4 to 5 seasons. No sense in deferring his NBA entrance with TD in his 30s.
    Yeah, Europe isn't doing him any good. It's a finesse league over there and he's just going to keep getting in foul trouble on that level.

    Bring him in, play him in D-League and start the process of finding a real player to put next to Tim within the next two seasons.

    I think Scola could work out very well for the Spurs. Forum consensus is that he'll never be a Spur. I'm not so sure.
    Yeah, I've watched Scola some recently and I want him on the Spurs. My only hesitancy is you don't want to overpay him. If you can get him for decent money, he has the potential to be better than any MLE free agent.

    He also has the potential to bust, thus why you don't want to overpay him. Although with the way Herrmann is tearing up the league, that's a good sign for Scola. Scola has been 10 times the player on every level.

    Javtokas seems unlikely after what went down last summer, but they still have his rights and if they have room, he may be given a shot.
    If he wants to come for the minimum or LLE, the Spurs could still use him. It's up to him, though.

    Sanikidze has fallen off the map. He might be another candidate for the 1st season on the bench treatment to learn the NBA game.
    I haven't given up on him yet. He dominated on the U22 team. Given that wasn't much compe ion, but a 6-foot-9 small forward who can shoot isn't something you throw away.

    Karaulov? Sure, a long shot. They have his rights so he's listed.
    Yeah, definitely a long shot. But who knows. 7-footers sometimes can take a long time to figure it out. In summer league, it looks like he's athletic enough to one day do something.

    Butler won't be leaving anytime soon.

    White has looked very good in limited action. Quite an accomplishment to play that well in the system as a rookie who joined the team in mid-season.
    The Spurs better not let these two guys go. Neither one is the perfect prospect, but the talent is there. Give them both a full summer with the team and they could be something in the coming years.

    Ely? If there's room and his price stays low, he'll stay.
    He's a good insurance policy. Someone scoops up one of the bigs, Ely is good enough to be a plugin.

    It'll be very interesting to see what they do with these 4 picks. One would think that they'd use at least one pick on an American collegian. Hopefully they have their international scouting together and don't F up as they did with Nocioni.

    They should have their mid-level exception this summer too.
    I'm still not sold that there will be room for more than one rookie this upcoming season. One rookie with three draft 'n stash picks is most likely. Or perhaps packaging the picks for a high pick.

    Other than re-signing Bonner and Vaughn, the MLE will be a major part of this summer. They could use it partly on Scola or go after a wing like Pietrus.

    It'll be interesting.

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    If the Spurs have any type of success in the playoffs, I can see the following roster next year:

    C Elson
    PF Duncan
    SF Bowen
    SG Ginobili
    PG Parker

    C Oberto
    PF Horry
    SF Finley
    SG Barry
    PG Vaughn

    C Butler
    PF Bonner
    SF White
    PG Udrih or Draft Pick
    ?? Mahinmi/Scola/MLE/Ely/Draft Pick


    At the very most, the Spurs could squeeze in two rookies into next year's roster. But that's assuming no Beno, no Mahinmi, no Scola, no Ely, no MLE free agent.

    More realistically, the Spurs might have room for one rookie. Might.

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    At least they'll have the flexibility to decide when (if ever) the players they have rights to will join the team. You'd think they'd start to work in some youth into the swing spots. I guess that's where White would fit in.

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    If we don't get a legit SF up in this , this summer, heads need to roll.




    Chicago has too many...we need one of theirs.

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    If we don't get a legit SF up in this , this summer, heads need to roll.
    Yup. Not sure if he's a Bull, though. This draft is probably strongest and deepest at SF.

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    If we don't get a legit SF up in this , this summer, heads need to roll.




    Chicago has too many...we need one of theirs.
    Nocioni would solve small ball. He's small but he's a better rebounder than the centers the Spurs have.

    Pop would be forced to retire it.


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    If I had to guess, I'd say the Spurs go with a point guard with one of their first two picks and draft 'n stash the rest.

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    Jeff Green would, too. Minus 3s. I see Green pushed down into the teens by Batum and Julian Wright. Both Nocioni and Green would be small ball specialists. Which would take more to get?

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    If I had to guess, I'd say the Spurs go with a point guard with one of their first two picks and draft 'n stash the rest.
    You've said this before, but I'm puzzled by it. There are only 3-4 first round PGs in the draft so far, depending on whether Collison enters and Pruitt stays, and there is a 10-15 slot drop off from Conley/Law to Collison/Pruitt. Collison would be an exceptional back-up, but I'm not sure why the Spurs prioritize using their first rounder on that position when there are more pressing needs. In the second round there are further prospects like Bobby Brown and Kaponen, who is especially interesting as an international.

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    I'm telling you, Acie Law is going to fall. Non-athletic seniors with mostly realized upside do not come off the board quickly. For him to remain in the 10-15 range, he'd have to test well or have some amazing individual workouts.

    Potential sells.

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    Law would be a nice pickup at #28.

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    Jameer Nelson had a better college career than Law, had better team success, was more of a prospect earlier on in his college career and still fell to 20 because he was a senior and played below the rim.

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    I certainly wouldn't mind grabbing Law. We'll see. My three favorites would be Green, Brandon Rush, and Law, and two of those guys had bad last games that 'hurt their stock'.

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    If they wanted to move up for a target they probably could use Beno + #28. Beno has enough scoring ability to sucker someone.

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    I doubt Beno would be worth anything to move up. Scola would have to be used, or 28 + 33. I still see Law speared well before 28 alone and a move-up would be necessary. Even then I'd rather go for a SF like Thaddeus Young. No complaints about Law, though.

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    In RC's dream, he drafts the rookie he plans to bring in right away with that Bucks pick in the second round. First rounders are better for the draft 'n stash strategy than second round picks.

    If the Spurs do have their eye on a swingman, I can see them going with them with at #33.

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    Point guards are like centers when it comes to potential and trade value. Those two spots are the most difficult to fill in the league. Udrih has a much better rep around the league than in this forum.

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    Your plan may work. Trade up (Scola) for Law - or miraculously finding him at 28. Then there are some good SFs still there with 33, guaranteed - Alando Tucker, maybe. Dominic McGuire, Jared Dudley, Wilson Chandler.

    They do need to move up to get Law. Pistons draft at 27. They have one at 15 and that's where I see him going right now. He'd be a perfect back-up for Billups.

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    Point guards are like centers when it comes to potential and trade value. Those two spots are the most difficult to fill in the league. Udrih has a much better rep around the league than in this forum.
    They can probably trade him, but not to move up in the draft. His value is zero in that regard.

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    No need for Udrih if you are drafting Law. You'll still have Vaughn to step in if Law's not ready.

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    Beno + 28 doesn't get you into the mid teens, but it definitely can get you into the high 20s (say 21 or 22). Assuming Law slides a little that would be a good spot to nab him.

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