Detriot whined there way to a championship and Cuban whined his way to the top of the west. Look at there rosters and no way are they that good without the whine. You provide the whine the refs will provide the cheese.
THAT'S exactly why TIM complains....he's a POST player getting beat down and whipped every night.........with no calls and then on the other end u breath on a jump shooter and GET STEPPED ON and all breaks loose at the free throw line...maybe the nba needs to change the rules again to protect the BIG GUYS too....?
Im absolutely disgusted by amused.
You call yourself a spurs fan. You turn this around on Duncan?
Are you ting me?
Good god.
yup. the whole Detroit team is just as complainer or more than the Spurs. That's what champions do, they use their mind to affect the refs.
what the you think Jordan used to do? magic, the detroit bad boys, Larry Bird?
all of them have the same thing in commond, they all complained about most of the calls against them in regular season, playoffs, finals, preseason. etc.
this is nothing new. the people calling out Duncan don't know what the they talking about.
I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this. If Crawford takes a fall... even if he doesn't ref another Spurs game, it will be on the minds of every other referee in the NBA. Whether conscious or not, that could affect how they call Spurs games.
Little picture....
The guys have careers to worry about...hopefully Stern will prove to them they need to be worried.
Stern usually backs up the refs--because he has to. Chaos otherwise.
If he disciplines Crawford publicly--or privately in my opinion--then Crawford certainly WILL carry a grudge forward against Tim. He's that kind of ref. If he doesn't discipline him, and there is another bad call in the playoffs by Crawford, then more bad publicity will accrue to the League about the unfair 'feud' of Crawford with the Spurs/Duncan.
Crawford's reputation isn't the best, having been in trouble for some kind of fraud with the IRS--and the league let him skate. He obviously put himself into this mess where another ref would have handled it better.
But if Stern is wise, he quietly keeps Crawford off the playoff games with the Spurs. There are enough refs to go around.
When the investigation is all done, look for Kobe to get suspended for one game.
Tim does a lot of whining and has benefitted from bad NBA officiating more than any player since John Stockton.
One only has to look back at the World Championship over the summer to see that without NBA officials, his game is significantly less effective.
I think he quietly keeps joey out of the playoffs...not just out of the spurs games...let's say a call is missed and your team loses ...the controversy will start up all over again.
joey is out for 07
Super stars like Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Dirk get called for the most ticky tacky fouls I['ve ever seen. Yet, Parker who lives in the paint hardly ever gets to the FT line for a 3 point player when he drives to the whole, initiates contact, and makes the shot. Then it's just a regular 2 pointer. I see no difference in Parker's drives to the basket than Wade/Kobe/etc. drives to the basket.
Duncan does whine too much and he should stop and just play the game. Because unconciously the refs know this and get annoyed by it.
Jesus Christ, did you miss the NCAA tournament this year?
It seems like the NBA calls fouls these days if a player starts deep in the post and makes a strong move to the basket (Duncan in last year's series against the Mavs) or if they start way out on the wing and drive in toward the basket (Wade). Dirk seems to get more foul calls from being hit shooting a jumper than he does driving in to the basket. Duncan also seems to have trouble getting foul calls if he starts farther out and makes a move into the lane. There's basically a no man's land for foul calls, especially for bigger players.
I didn't know the officials could prevent him from even being on the team. Now that's power.
Ah. That statement speaks volumes about you.
Sorry, I meant the Olympics when he cried all the time but didn't have the NBA refs to save the day.
Hey, was Joey "The Gnome" Crawford out of line? Sure he was. But you are kidding yourselves if you don't think Tim Duncan is one of the most referee coddled, ref dependent players in the league today.
He is like a kid. You spoil them rotten (in my kid's case with toys, in Tim's with calls in his favor) and instead of appreciating it, they just want more!
If my letter to the referee's association helps get Crawford in the trouble he deserves, do I get a Spur?
I ought to - there was no passive agressive putting a password on my computer type of response this time.
I let the sucker know!
Okay. I guess your eyes missed the Xavier/Ohio State game?
See, generally I agree with this, but that's why the second T Duncan got is so outrageous. He WASN'T complaining. He was laughing on the bench. Crawford had no right to legislate what Duncan can and can't do while sitting on the bench. He didn't say anything to him, he didn't DO ANYTHING. And he still got thrown out of the game.
For that, Crawford deserves to be shut down for the season.
So, essentially, you're contending that Tim Duncan wouldn't be a successful NBA player -- or as successful -- if he wasn't "coddled" by officials? That has to be among the most preposterous takes I've ever read on this board.Sorry, I meant the Olympics when he cried all the time but didn't have the NBA refs to save the day.
Hey, was Joey "The Gnome" Crawford out of line? Sure he was. But you are kidding yourselves if you don't think Tim Duncan is one of the most referee coddled, ref dependent players in the league today.
He is like a kid. You spoil them rotten (in my kid's case with toys, in Tim's with calls in his favor) and instead of appreciating it, they just want more!
As not a.
He gets more touch fouls than any big man I have ever seen, it is a joke.
If Shaq went to the line on the same touch fouls Duncan gets, he would shoot 40 ft's a game. And I say that as a guy who can't stand Shaq.
I don't think you back off discipline of a malperforming employee because you are afraid they will act even worse. If they do so, then you fire them.
cough*Dirk*cough
It's good to know that without officials, Tim Duncan wouldn't have 3 les, 3 Finals MVPs, 2 MVPs, multiple First Team All-NBA and First Team All-Defense awards. I'm curious what portion of his resume is official-created, though. Quan atively, of course.
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