Tim Duncan laughed in a referee's face and then got that ref suspended. That's the way it will be viewed by the ref brotherhood. No way this will be good for the Spurs in terms of calls.
No, the Spurs have been playing solid and winning consistently for over 2 months now.
February is over. It's April and the Spurs own the best record since the ASB.
Am I saying they're the only team with a chance to win it? No. Miami, Detroit, Dallas, and SA all have an equal chance to win it. Depending on who gets those bounces.
Nope. But the Spurs will laugh their way to the le.
I think if that were to happen in ONE GAME, Stern would make sure the officials didn't work another playoff game this year. That's money out of their pockets.
We only heard the public stuff. I'm sure there was communication to ALL of the refs that Tim didn't cause Joey's suspension; Joey's temper and ego caused it. Tim just happened to be the focus.
Stern sent the message loud and clear do not act unprofessionally or suffer the conseqeunces. Did Duncan Suspend Crawford no. If they have a problem they can take it up with Stern. Nothing that happened is Tim's fault. Crawford screwed himself by not even apologizing. Stern said he thought he was right for what he did. Challenging a player to a fight is wrong, anyway you look at it.
Hmmm. I was watching the game, and I saw Tim laughing on the bench. He didn't do anything "in a referee's face" until he was tossed, and then he rightly cussed Joey Asshole.Tim Duncan laughed in a referee's face and then got that ref suspended. That's the way it will be viewed by the ref brotherhood. No way this will be good for the Spurs in terms of calls.
No league office owns the officials the way the NBA does. All Stern would have had to do was add one sentence to his referee communication: Any retribution will be dealt with in a like manner.
Was Crawford the one who fouled out Duncan in Game 3 last year because Dirk landed on his foot?
They need to let the athletes play and stop sending the wrong team to the Finals.
TD was looking right at Crawford the whole time he was laughing. Anyway, I said that was the way the refs would view it, not that it happened that way.
Yea, Timvp pointed that out a couple of days ago, I had completely forgot about that. That was one of the worst calls ever
Hmm. Joey was at mid court walking towards that end of the court. Tim looked like he was looking at nothing, straight ahead down the baseline. I don't think Joey was even in his line of sight. I don't think he even knew he got tossed for probably 10 seconds.
The refs will view this the way Stern tells them to. He just dropped the hammer on a 29 year vet. You think ANY ref wants some of that?
Exactly he bounced a vet who is regarded as one of the games best officials. These guys got their own futures to worry about regardless of how upset they are that JC is gone. Duncan is a good guy he is not Artest or Rasheed Wallace, this was about JC venting not about Tim.
They get paid up to $300K to jog, stay in shape, and watch NBA basketball...ON THE COURT. Would you up that gig? Only if you're Joey Crawford....
I don't think Crawford has many friends among the refs. Look at Marc Stein's blog on espn insider. Dude was talking to Bevetta in his farewell e-mail!
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...ame=stein_marc
Crawford also blasted fellow referee Bavetta in the e-mail obtained by ESPN.com, hinting at divisions among referees between those who do and don't support Bavetta and writing that maybe Bavetta will wind up as the crew chief in Game 7 of the NBA "which is a travesty in itself you even being in the finals."
I think it was also pretty insulting to the two other refs in Dallas for Joey to think that they can't stand up for themselves. Even on the first Tech, Tim was NOT talking to Crawford. He said something, but I'm not sure if it was even addressed directly to a ref.
Bavetta is fairly blind, and a bit of a ham, but I don't think there's a mean bone in his body. The same cannot be said of Joey C.
Jake O'Donnell = Steve Javie = Joey Crawford
They are one of a kind. Two are gone and the other should be terminated as well.
I personally know i couldn't ref a game. and everyone says this ref is bad, but does anyone have a list of good refs?
I have to think that there is more to this than this one incident. We don't hear about the daily calls the league receives about refs. It's very possible that the league has received a number of valid complaints about Crawford and this was the final straw. We also don't know what he has said to other refs behind the scenes, so there is just as good a chance as any that they all saw this coming.
I was kind of worried but the more I think about it the refs will probably err on the side of the Spurs because you know the media will be watching our games closely to see if the refs retaliate, and if they do it will be the top of Sportscenter.
If every ref was Joey Crawford then you might get a little revenge but most probably consider themselves more professional.
The best NBA ref is Steve Javie, the worst of all time is Hugh Hollins.
Agreed with javie
IMO no. The refs might be a wee but gunshy when it comes to the Spurs or Duncan.
Skip Bayless (admittedly not the most credible source) said he thinks the Spurs will be retaliated against by the refs in the playoffs. On Cold Pizza, he mentioned Crawford's calls against Duncan in Game 3 of the Mavs series last year. Fouls 5 and 6 against Duncan were bogus said Bayless. But he said the refs will show solidarity with Crawford simply because he was one of them. (Typically the way an affronted group reacts after one of their own is hit with something that diminishes all their status.) He ended by saying, "I think the Spurs are in trouble."
Get your excuses ready fellas.
"he was one of them"
Now that he's not one of them, he's trash talking back at them. There may not be huge feelings of solidarity by the refs for Crawford.
I keep hearing this, but if you watch the tape, Joey's standing 8-10 ft away from Duncan while the free throws are being shot and Duncan gets his first technical. Joey had his back to Tim as he was watching the play, so you would think he said something Joey heard, as opposed to doing something he saw.Even on the first Tech, Tim was NOT talking to Crawford. He said something, but I'm not sure if it was even addressed directly to a ref.
And people are focusing on the "Do you want to fight?" which I think is a red herring. From most accounts, didn't that happen after the ejection? Regardless, Crawford got suspended because he impacted the flow of the game by calling technical fouls instead of walking away. Crawford still thinks he's right to call a technical if a player's disrespecting him. Stern thinks he needs to shut up and take the disrespect rather than disrupt the game.
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