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Okay, I will look it over
Well we will just have to hope that Timmy doesnt throw any dirty elbows to get the refs attention
Okay, I will look it over
of course, this is what you said originally
"not get any calls" would be to say that Kobe consistently gets less FTA than he should. You used FGA and FTA as a correlation. FWD already showed that Carmelo Anthony got less FTAs with similar number of FTs, he also showed there are multiple cases where Kobe got a su iously high number of FTAs based on the FGA, this is proving your claim false by contradiction.
Also see my other posts on expected FTA based on FGA. It would be nice if you can just show some statistics, FWD already showed that Bryant is #1 in the NBA in FTA, and #2 in FTA/Game, where is your evidence?
I think I posted evidence of Kobe not getting calls with a high number of FGA, Wade has never attempted less than 4 freethrows a game but I will revisit these stats and get back to you.
Duncan Hopes Refs Treat Spurs Fairly
SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- Spurs star Tim Duncan said he hopes he and his teammates "get a fair shake" from officials in the wake of NBA referee Joey Crawford's suspension.
http://www.columbian.com/sports/APSt...news128769.cfm
The lakers acutally made the playoffs??????!!!!!
And what about the Carmelo conundrum?
Is he just not enough of a superstar to make his volume shooting (equal to Kobe's) count?
Uuh, this story's been posted like 10 times, you not making a news break right now. And of course he want a fair shake. He didnt do anything to the ref, and its not like he elbowed someone
Well if it was posted 10 times already, you should know that it is a concern of Duncans. The ref's stick together and I'm sure some of those are friends of Crawfords that will not take kindly to him being suspended.
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The question is the frequency of those games you mentioned. So he got 4 FTA, does that mean over a long run that is happening? Anyone can simply take a few games out, point to the outlyers and claim that is the trend, but statistics has shown the contrary.
Kind of like posting games where he shot a lot of freethrows? It is several games that kobe shot few freethrows to match his many FGA.
So what does this have to do with the Lakers?
If they gave Kobe all the calls he thought he "deserved", games would last 5 hours.
Did I post that? I didn't recall, could you quote me on it?
What I did recall was I pointed out FWD used a method of contradiction to prove that your original claim of Kobe not getting any calls was wrong. He did show that he does get calls, no matter how remote the chances are.
On the other hand, if some guy comes in and claims that Kobe always gets calls, you can show those games as proof that he does not get calls all the time, and there are instances where he doesn't get it.
Nothing. It was in response to the post quoted!
oh ok, got ya!
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It's quite clear that statistics are insufficient to answer his qualitative argument.
Now, his argument is likely bull , but stat-whoring and copping some bad-ass sports geek at ude isn't going to get you anything more than somes.
(OK, he's since gotten himself into trying to support his argument quan atively, which you and armbchang have rightly shot down)
If you want to go into specifics and game by games, I will go into specifics and game by games.
I went through each and every single game Kobe played in in the 2006-07 season, as well as the statistics of all the players, and the following are the findings:
Of the 441 players, there were 195,037 FGA, and 63,834 FTA, which means that for every 3 shots that were taken, there was about FTA. I converted this into a percentage, and it comes out to 33%, calling it FTA/FGA (not very creative, I know).
I then took the top 50 scorers in the NBA, and it gave me a 38% for the FTA/FGA.
The top 20 scorers have the FTA/FGA at 42%,
And the top 10 scorers is 40%.
It does show that top scorers get more FTs, which isn’t a surprise.
I then used these numbers to look at a game to game situation for Kobe.
Out of the 77 games that Kobe played, he had a higher FTA/FGA number than the average for the top 10 scorers 46 times, this means that 60% of the time, Kobe shot more FTA than an average top 10 scorer (including Kobe himself) using FGA as a predictor.
For top 20 scorers, it’s 43 times, or 56%.
For Top 50 scorers, it’s 49 times, or 64%.
And compared to the league average, it’s 57 times, or 74% of the time.
I also compared Kobe’s FTA/FGA to other top players in the league, of the:
Top 10 scorers, Kobe ranks #3
Top 20 scorers, Kobe ranks #8
Top 50 scorers, Kobe ranks #14
All players, Kobe ranks 97 out of 441.
The numbers consistently shows that Kobe gets his fare shake. In other words, you were way off base in saying that Kobe does not get calls.
seems like you did not enjoy your season lakerfan. don't worry 4 more games of suffering to go for you, then you can rest
Actually it IS suprising and one of his biggest criticisms.....A guard who drives into the paint so much is almost guaranteed to draw contact, compared to a jump shooter who only usually gets calls when a defender decides to jump into him.
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Not at all! Everybody's back now but it may be too late. We will see about the 4 games and out.seems like you did not enjoy your season lakerfan. don't worry 4 more games of suffering to go for you, then you can rest
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