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the only question i have is.... is artest suspended for just the season... or for the playoffs too?
Oh give it a rest already about your soccer example. Artest was hit with plastic cup full of beer thrown by one fan. , I don't recall you ever having a problem with Jack Nicholson walking on the floor. Damn you are a ing dumbass.
the only question i have is.... is artest suspended for just the season... or for the playoffs too?
dude after the players went after fans
fans have the right to defend themselves
nba is not soccer
it runs how it runs
it has been very successfull
much more then soccer
I think you take the first round draft pick from pacers so they do not tank
even though it will be tough for the pacers to reach the playoffs now
The NBA is soccer. Those Euro soccer fans are crazy. They kill each other after games. In South America, they kill the players.
Let us know when something like that happens in the NBA.
The fans didn't get out of hand until Artest and Jack decided to run into the stands. Small wonder, considering that fans were being beat up by them.
It looks like I'm getting under Marcus's skin. And very easily, I might add.
The fans have no right to throw , or to come out on the floor. As the home organization, the Pistons have to be punished. An example must be set that this type of behaviour is not appropriate.
Marcus, you're making yourself look like an ass, throwing childish taunts for no reason. No wonder GhostWriter has historically ripped you apart on these message boards.
Jack Nicholson walking on the floor.
had the nba had the nerve to throw him out
the piston fan might have not done what he did
but he thought if he could go on the court and get away without stupid stuff why not him
does Jack Nicholson have the right to walk on the court?
When you continually repeat a nonsensical argument like that then prepared to be called on it. It's also not surprising that you have found Ghost's arguments compelling. Notice how practically no one in this forum has agreed with you? Stick to soccer, for you don't know about the NBA.
You might as well punish fans in San Antonio, Los Angeles, and Portland, too. They had just as much to do with the fiasco as most of the fans in Detroit did.
If you want to blindly accuse ten year old kids and upstanding fans of wrongdoing and punish them accordingly, go ahead. I'll go with punishing the fans that actually were involved. There were many fans involved, and the league should work as hard as it can to make sure that as many of those fans as possible get the harshest penalty allowed.
Why are you accusing ten year old kids in the upper deck of wrongdoing? Your position on this issue makes absolutely no sense.
just wait tell the criminal charges come out against oneal,jackson and maybe ron
NBA suspends Artest for rest of season
Associated Press
NEW YORK - Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season Sunday as the NBA came down hard on three members of the Indiana Pacers for fighting with fans when a melee broke out at the end of a game against the Detroit Pistons.
Overall, nine players from the teams were banned for 143 games, including some of the harshest penalties the league ever issued. Artest is the first player to be suspended for nearly an entire season for a fight during a game.
Indiana's Stephen Jackson was suspended for 30 games and Jermaine O'Neal for 25. Detroit's Ben Wallace - whose shove of Artest after a foul led to the 5-minute fracas - drew a six-game ban, while Pacers guard Anthony Johnson got five games.
Four players were suspended for a game apiece: Indiana's Reggie Miller, and Detroit's Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman.
All of the suspensions are without pay.
Artest, O'Neal and Jackson - who all threw punches at fans in the stands or on the court at the end of the nationally televised Pacers-Pistons game Friday night - began serving their suspensions Saturday. Indiana, limited to just six players because of the suspensions and injuries, dropped an 86-83 decision to Orlando.
I'm watching ESPNNews right now, and Mark Jackson is saying that the fans behaviour was unacceptable. And the NBA must take a stand against the fans as well, and HE is calling for some appropriate action by the league.
But you're right MarcusBryant, because Mark Jackson doesn't know about the NBA either (he only played in the league for 15 years or so), and you as a Monday Morning quarterback fan (who has probably never played a sport in his life) know so much more than he does.
I think the piston fans that are responisble and threw stuff should be banned from going to all sport games not just nba
I thought Fred Jones and Tinsley might get a couple games. But I guess Jones just got his ass kicked, and I guess The Janitor got off the hook.
The reason he is advancing this argument is because he wanted to play show and tell with the soccer example.
How The F Did Sjax Get Off So Lightly???
Everyone is calling for action against the fans. But not against ALL the fans.I'm watching ESPNNews right now, and Mark Jackson is saying that the fans behaviour was unacceptable. And the NBA must take a stand against the fans as well, and HE is calling for some appropriate action by the league.
you know most nba players are saying it is the fans fault
all espn did because they were former players
not a very srong agrument addias
Uh oh, lil' adidas is getting mad. Mark Jackson is sticking up for the players...small surprise.
So the player's opinion isn't valid?
Marcus, instead of crying and whining about my posts, why don't you come up with any suggestions about what the NBA should do about the fans? Try to add something valuable to this conversation, for once. Hopefully, with your extensive knowledge of the NBA, you can come up with something.
Im surprised Stern actually had the balls to suspend Artest the whole season.
The suspensions are pretty in line with what I personally thought but I really thought Stern would try to rationalize lower suspensions with the ESPN shootaround arguement (ie it was also the fans faults)
Major props to Stern and the NBA
You still haven't explained why you think the rumble was the fault of a three year old kid sitting in the upper deck. And you still haven't explained why the NBA should punish that three year old fan sitting in the upper deck for attending a game.
Common sense reveals that the guilty parties should be punished. I mean, Ted Kaczinsky got the death penalty...should all white males be killed just because one did something bad?
The real losers of the whole situation where the children in the audience who witnessed the disgraceful event. To with the suspended, they will continue to prosper without any real consequences regardless of these suspensions.
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