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  1. #26
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    Martin is easily better than Ellis. Martin will be an all-star, Ellis will not.

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    What can I say or do to get you to like me, Carrot Top? I'm desperate for support.

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    If the Kings had had a better season and made the POs Kevin would have won.
    Simple as that.

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    Martin is easily better than Ellis. Martin will be an all-star, Ellis will not.
    What makes you think Ellis wont be a All-Star? Guy is 3 years younger than Martin and already doubled his average for points and assists in his second year. I would take Ellis in a heartbeat over Martin

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    Martin scored all of 2.9 pts his first year, two years later he's scoring 20. He's doing this pretty much as a third option behind ballhogs Bibby and Artest. He scores his 20 points on minimal shots as well. Put this kid as a #1 option and you've got at least 27 points a game. The kid knows how to get to the line too (#8 in the league) Ellis is good, very good, but he's not in the same league as Martin yet.

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    Martin scored all of 2.9 pts his first year, two years later he's scoring 20. He's doing this pretty much as a third option behind ballhogs Bibby and Artest. He scores his 20 points on minimal shots as well. Put this kid as a #1 option and you've got at least 27 points a game. The kid knows how to get to the line too (#8 in the league) Ellis is good, very good, but he's not in the same league as Martin yet.
    Im not trying to take away from Martins season, kid is great and has a bright future in front of him. As far as Monte, he was a late second round pick that averaged about 7 points, 2 assists and under a steal,and raised that to 17, 4 assists and about 2 steals his second year. Im not arguing that Martin wont be a AS for a long time, I just think that Ellis will be as well
    Last edited by mardigan; 04-26-2007 at 05:21 PM.

  7. #32
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    Gotcha.

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    ellis will be an all star.... dudes a beast.... one of my favorite players.... but martin was still robbed......

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    If the Kings had had a better season and made the POs Kevin would have won. Damn you Muss
    Agree with ya 250%. enough said, dang i bet Kevin's pissed. i was looking forward to this, guess it ain't the Kings' year in freaking ! em!

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    Damn you Muss


    How did the Kings not making the playoffs, become his fault?

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    Should have gone to Luol Deng. He's been putting up big games all year.

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    Put this kid as a #1 option and you've got at least 27 points a game.
    and pigs can fly

    i wish Chandler won it. second in the league in rebounds after not doing his career

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    Should have gone to Luol Deng. He's been putting up big games all year.
    nope deng is overated

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    nope deng is overated

    But he's really good against the Heat.

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    But he's really good against the Heat.
    he is being guarded by a 6'4 sg with a injured shoulder.

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    he is being guarded by a 6'4 sg with a injured shoulder.
    whose fault is that? maybe that "genius" HC of yours oughta try coming up with a gameplan rather than praying that his 6'4 injured guard bails him out like last year.

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    and deng isn't overrated. i'd take deng over ellis or martin...maybe not for Most Improved this year, but overall he's better than either of them, and only 21 years old.

    If the Mavs could do a "Deng for Howard" trade, i'd ship Josh out to Chicago in a heartbeat and laugh that I just got such a steal of a trade. That's how good I think Luol Deng is.

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    whose fault is that? maybe that "genius" HC of yours oughta try coming up with a gameplan rather than praying that his 6'4 injured guard bails him out like last year.
    I dont know why Riley has not changed the lineup yet he probally will for tonight.

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    and deng isn't overrated. i'd take deng over ellis or martin...maybe not for Most Improved this year, but overall he's better than either of them, and only 21 years old.

    If the Mavs could do a "Deng for Howard" trade, i'd ship Josh out to Chicago in a heartbeat and laugh that I just got such a steal of a trade. That's how good I think Luol Deng is.
    Wow Mavs fan turning on his own players howard was a all star for a reason.

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    How did the Kings not making the playoffs, become his fault?
    You sir, are an ass.

    This team was almost identical to the team they had last year, and Artest and Martin had career years this year. I guarantee Adelman could have taken this team to the playoffs. Same team, different coach, no playoffs. Take a break from shoveling funnel cakes down your throat all day and do some research.

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    Wow Mavs fan turning on his own players howard was a all star for a reason.
    not quite, I think Howard is great. He definitely deserved to be an All-Star. I just don't see Howard getting much better than he already is. Meanwhile, Deng is already almost as good as Howard, and he's still got a ton of room for improvement. Plus he's bigger and more athletic.

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    not quite, I think Howard is great. He definitely deserved to be an All-Star. I just don't see Howard getting much better than he already is. Meanwhile, Deng is already almost as good as Howard, and he's still got a ton of room for improvement. Plus he's bigger and more athletic.
    You would give up a all star for someone with potential its not like howards old he is 25 I think.

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    Deng has raised his points, rebounds, assists, steals and field goal percentage every year for his first 3 years and hes only 22. Dude averaged like 19 and 7 this year on 50% shooting and only 15 shots a game. Hes more than potential

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