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    Why was J.R. in the game anyway? Who is to blame for that?

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    i don't really sympathize with karl, but i imagine he has sat down with smith more than a few times this series and still isn't getting through at all. last resort?

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    beno for smith?
    Do it!

    Seriously, I'd take Smith in a heartbeat as long as we didn't have to give up anything too valuable. The guy can shoot, is athletic, and in the Spurs system can be very productive. Karl has apparently burned the bridge by crying to the media before even telling Smith, so I say let's make an attempt at him.

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    Diawara has the upside to be as good for Spurs than Smith.

    I will be curious to see who Karl will choose between a player with some experience like Johnson and a rookie like Diawara who makes the transition from PF to SG this year.

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    i don't really sympathize with karl, but i imagine he has sat down with smith more than a few times this series and still isn't getting through at all. last resort?
    When the kid is 21 with no playoff experience and has just seen his minutes cut by more than half to start the PO, what is sitting him down and talking to him going to do? It's Karl's responsibility to his team to put players in a situation to succeed, and he hasn't done that. Do you see Pop calling plays for Elson on the block? No, because he knows that's outside his realm and would set him up for failure.

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    When the kid is 21 with no playoff experience and has just seen his minutes cut by more than half to start the PO, what is sitting him down and talking to him going to do? It's Karl's responsibility to his team to put players in a situation to succeed, and he hasn't done that. Do you see Pop calling plays for Elson on the block? No, because he knows that's outside his realm and would set him up for failure.
    being told you are killing your team and losing games for them should not cause you to jack up wild threes. i'm not on karl's side here at all, but he has to be incredibly frustrated with smith at this point. smith has had plenty of chances to succeed, and has ed up royally. smith was their best three point shooter this year, and denver has sucked from three this series. he had to be given chances.

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    being told you are killing your team and losing games for them should not cause you to jack up wild threes. i'm not on karl's side here at all, but he has to be incredibly frustrated with smith at this point. smith has had plenty of chances to succeed, and has ed up royally. smith was their best three point shooter this year, and denver has sucked from three this series. he had to be given chances.
    He took one wild three, the others weren't outside of the Denver offense. Let's bench Barry too.

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    He took one wild three, the others weren't outside of the Denver offense. Let's bench Barry too.

    Barry's finished with a positive +/- every game this series. Smith with a negative. In fact, his is the worst on the team right now. Manu should expect some DerMarr Johnson in Game 5.

    Or maybe Karl can just play a six man rotation and kill his guys.

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    That sucks. J.R. Smith is one of the best role players the Spurs have.

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    Demarr is zero threat from outside.

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    Demarr is zero threat from outside.
    I wouldn't say that. He had a bad year, but then his minutes were slashed. If you look at his career numbers, they're good. What he is is an EXTREMELY weak rebounder. That helps SA.

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    Karl is projecting his anger at the fact he doesn't have a bench to compete with a team like the Spurs and the bench team they have.

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    beno for smith?
    Make it so.

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    And so the year 4 implosion of the Karl-Nuggets relationship begins.

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    Barry's finished with a positive +/- every game this series. Smith with a negative. In fact, his is the worst on the team right now. Manu should expect some DerMarr Johnson in Game 5.

    Or maybe Karl can just play a six man rotation and kill his guys.
    I can't imagine that his plan for Game 5 doesn't include gigantic minutes for both Anthony and Iverson. Iverson will likely play 45-48 in regulation and I'd expect Anthony to be at least in the 42-45 range. He can conceivably rotate 5 guys through the other spots on the floor without doing too much damage, but if I were the Nuggets, I can't say that I think that's a recipe for taking 3 games in 5 days from a deep San Antonio team.

    Dermarr Johnson, IIRC, was among the guys lit up by Manu in 2005.

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    I thought 100% this was an Onion article when I read it. That's sick to on a player like that to the media.

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    And so the year 4 implosion of the Karl-Nuggets relationship begins.
    Absolutely. I have always given Karl the benefit of the doubt thinking he was a good coach, just a bit of a hard ass with his players. His telling the media first is chicken pure and simple. The clock is running on him now.

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    karl =

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    I can't imagine that his plan for Game 5 doesn't include gigantic minutes for both Anthony and Iverson. Iverson will likely play 45-48 in regulation and I'd expect Anthony to be at least in the 42-45 range. He can conceivably rotate 5 guys through the other spots on the floor without doing too much damage, but if I were the Nuggets, I can't say that I think that's a recipe for taking 3 games in 5 days from a deep San Antonio team.

    Dermarr Johnson, IIRC, was among the guys lit up by Manu in 2005.

    Well he pretty much has to play AI/Camby/Nene/Melo 48 minutes and Kleiza/Blake for the other 48.

    See the dirty little secret nobody's talking about is that Najera is killing the Nuggets just as much as Smith is. Sure he hustles and gets offensive rebounds, but the guy can't score. Every time he's in the game we simply double off him and make life a living for AI and Carmelo. The Nuggets simply can't score when Najera is in the game and we pretty much go on a run whenever he's in there instead of Nene.

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    If he was so pissed about the ill advised 3 with 25.7 left what in the was he doing still in the game with 8 seconds left, pretty sure he couldnt have launced a 50 foot 3 from the bench, what an ass... man I wish Isiah would have just popped Karl him one after that brawl...

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    Karl has always been unprofessional. Dressing down your own player to the media only hurts him and destroys whatever trust there may have been. Just think if your employer did that to you in a company newsletter.

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    Well he pretty much has to play AI/Camby/Nene/Melo 48 minutes and Kleiza/Blake for the other 48.

    See the dirty little secret nobody's talking about is that Najera is killing the Nuggets just as much as Smith is. Sure he hustles and gets offensive rebounds, but the guy can't score. Every time he's in the game we simply double off him and make life a living for AI and Carmelo. The Nuggets simply can't score when Najera is in the game and we pretty much go on a run whenever he's in there instead of Nene.
    Yeah, i kind of agree. Kleiza is at least a threat. He should see more playing time.

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    i don't really sympathize with karl, but i imagine he has sat down with smith more than a few times this series and still isn't getting through at all. last resort?
    The only reason Karl's actions suck, is he doesn't keep it between himself and a player. The fact that he calls out a young player like that, are markings of a bad coach. He's never gonna get anything out of J.R. Smith now.

    Sure J.R. ed up, and lots of coaches punish their players. But this guy has no class or conscience. He deserves what he gets in terms of getting owned (and outclassed) by Pop.

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    man I feel for JR. Way to raise the guy's confidence for the future

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    Damn, I wasn't expecting Karl to start throwing the players under the bus until next year

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