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    Golden State has no interior defense either. I can live with letting them eat or starve at the three-point line. They're going to chuck up a bunch of them anyway. What you don't want is incessant penetration by Davis making those shot opportunities any easier.

    The key to beating them, IMO, is keeping Davis out of the paint. They need to try to shut him down as much as possible and make the other GS players beat you.

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    Dirk had a great clutch performance, but he's FAR from out of my doghouse. It's great that he did what he did, but how about showing some of that in the first 4 games? He's still the reason we're down 3-2 to the 8 seed, and if we lose this series, or even the next one, my Dump Dirk campaign will continue on.

    So, if the Mavs get swept by the Spurs in the WCF, Dirk is safe?

    Just askin'.

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    I think Avery needs to double team the out of Baron the entire game 6

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    So, if the Mavs get swept by the Spurs in the WCF, Dirk is safe?

    Just askin'.
    there's only two possible outcomes this postseason for me to eat crow and admit that Dirk is capable of leading his team to a le -

    1. winning a le (obviously)
    2. losing a very closely contested series to San Antonio

    losing to anybody else is inexcusable. and getting destroyed by San Antonio is inexcusable as well.

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    i dont think DIRK will ever be safe - being the superstar on this team. anytime the Mavs choke, fail, lose - Dirk tends to take the brunt of the comments from fans/commentators/coaches/players.

    then again - alot of the times when the Mavs choke, fail, lose - it is bc the superstar on the team didnt show up... so....

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    Nice posts in this thread. It's good to see. =)

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    not really, it's just irritating when every win is the result of a conspiracy.
    It wasn't a conspiracy. The Warriors CHOKED!

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    The key to beating them, IMO, is keeping Davis out of the paint. They need to try to shut him down as much as possible and make the other GS players beat you.
    I'd zone and force the Warriors to shoot over it. They're going to make some threes no matter what, they attempt a ton, but that's not what's going to lose us this series.

    If nothing else, why not bring Dampier in for 6 hard fouls in 15 minutes? This isn't the ideal series for him, he was brought here for Yao, Shaq and Duncan, but he can contribute to this team, and with Harrington MIA, I don't see why we need to keep Damp off the floor. The Warriors are not a good free-throw shooting team, and you can physically grind on a smallball team if you continually knock them to the floor. I'm not talking about flagrant fouls or trying to hurt guys, but championship teams exert a physical price for coming into the paint. I don't understand why Avery won't use Willis and his 6 fouls for 5-8 minutes.

    Aside from Wade and the refs, a big part of why we lost that series to Miami is the physical punishment they doled out for daring to drive to the rim. After a while, you subconsciously settle for jumpers. Golden State made some ridiculous HORSE shots last night, but I can live with that kind of shot selection. They, on the other hand, don't have the interior defenders to punish us for going to the hoop. Hopefully Avery will replay the film of how we got that 21 point lead and how we lost it as well.

    ** Actually couldn't you bring in Ager, Willis and Damp for Hack a Biedrins? He's been killing us on those slash and cuts to the basket. I'd love to get him out of there and force them to put Harrington back in. I can't believe Avery hasn't tried this...your end of the bench guys are there for fouls and nothing else.
    Last edited by Findog; 05-02-2007 at 11:32 AM.

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    ^ Bringing in Kevin Willis is a good idea. I think he brings the right kind of enforcer at ude that's been missing.

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    ^ Bringing in Kevin Willis is a good idea. I think he brings the right kind of enforcer at ude that's been missing.
    I seriously want to see them come down and hack the out of Biedrins once they get into the penalty, or put a smaller guy like George or Buck on him and hack him on any shot attempt if Nellie tries to exploit that mismatch. Put that mother er on the FT line and don't let the Warriors run their offense until Nellie subs in Harrington for him.

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    Actually couldn't you bring in Ager, Willis and Damp for Hack a Biedrins?
    problem with this is that he's actually making his free throws.

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    I seriously want to see them come down and hack the out of Biedrins once they get into the penalty, or put a smaller guy like George or Buck on him and hack him on any shot attempt if Nellie tries to exploit that mismatch. Put that mother er on the FT line and don't let the Warriors run their offense until Nellie subs in Harrington for him.
    I dunno...if you're just saying to hack him to make sure he doesn't score and make him earn it at the line, then i agree....but if we're talking about playing Hack-A-Biedrins, then i'd rather not do it. I have yet to see a single case of when Hack-A-Shaq or Hack-A-Ben or Hack-A-Whatever actually works. It tends to throw both offenses off their rhythm.

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    problem with this is that he's actually making his free throws.
    Even if he is, once they get into the penalty, or Avery puts a smaller defender on him that the Warriors try to exploit, Golden State can't run their offense until Nellie subs him out. He's a bad free throw shooter, the more attempts you give him, the more that will be borne out. I'd rather have him hit 75% of his free throws that let Richardson, Davis, Barnes and Jackson make it rain from three-point land. And again, if everytime the come down the floor, play has to stop for Biedrins to shoot FTs instead of being able to run their offense, it doesn't allow them to get into a rhythm of get out and run.

    * Point taken on both offenses, but this suits Dallas more than Golden State. The Warriors like to get out and run, or chuck up threes in transition before the defense has set up. We're better at executing the halfcourt set.

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    Even if he is, once they get into the penalty, or Avery puts a smaller defender on him that the Warriors try to exploit, Golden State can't run their offense until Nellie subs him out. He's a bad free throw shooter, the more attempts you give him, the more that will be borne out. I'd rather have him hit 75% of his free throws that let Richardson, Davis, Barnes and Jackson make it rain from three-point land. And again, if everytime the come down the floor, play has to stop for Biedrins to shoot FTs instead of being able to run their offense, it doesn't allow them to get into a rhythm of get out and run.
    yeah it may be worth a shot. desperate times call for desperate measures. if this team would just play hard for 48 minutes they'll win by 20.

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    I seriously want to see them come down and hack the out of Biedrins once they get into the penalty, or put a smaller guy like George or Buck on him and hack him on any shot attempt if Nellie tries to exploit that mismatch. Put that mother er on the FT line and don't let the Warriors run their offense until Nellie subs in Harrington for him.
    It tells you how poorly Harrington is playing if Nellie is playing a center that can't shoot from beyond 5 feet. Can you imagine how much that must kill Nellie to do?

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    The Warriors played like down the stretch for sure, but there were some definate questionable calls down the stretch. S-Jax shouldnt have been ejected even though the game was over at that point, and even the 6th foul on Baron was bull . Before that, harris got a and 1 call on Baron for his 5th foul that was bull . The Mavs def earned the win and Dirk played well down the stretch, but the refs did make some really bad calls.
    On a side note I am starting to hate Harris more than any player who has ever played in the NBA.

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    The Warriors played like down the stretch for sure, but there were some definate questionable calls down the stretch. S-Jax shouldnt have been ejected even though the game was over at that point, and even the 6th foul on Baron was bull . Before that, harris got a and 1 call on Baron for his 5th foul that was bull . The Mavs def earned the win and Dirk played well down the stretch, but the refs did make some really bad calls.
    On a side note I am starting to hate Harris more than any player who has ever played in the NBA.
    if we're talking bull fouls lets not forget that the Mavs got raped by the refs the entire 3rd quarter and start of the 4th.

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    yeah it may be worth a shot. desperate times call for desperate measures. if this team would just play hard for 48 minutes they'll win by 20.
    THE WHOLE TEAM, not just Dirk showing up in the final mins, Josh playin an excellent 1rst half. EVERYBODY needs to show up to win for 48 mins, defensive mindsets in place, offensive shots taken when the look is good... Not tryna play at GS' pace but set a Mav pace with good rhythm and no stupid fouls!!! And we might get the W in GS.

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    The Warriors played like down the stretch for sure, but there were some definate questionable calls down the stretch. S-Jax shouldnt have been ejected even though the game was over at that point, and even the 6th foul on Baron was bull . Before that, harris got a and 1 call on Baron for his 5th foul that was bull . The Mavs def earned the win and Dirk played well down the stretch, but the refs did make some really bad calls. On a side note I am starting to hate Harris more than any player who has ever played in the NBA.
    There were some bad calls both ways. I can't recall too many playoff games where there weren't bad calls both ways.

    While I don't agree with the league deciding that clapping at a ref's call against your team is grounds for a technical, it's the way it is so he should have received it. It's been explained to all the players that this will get you a technical. Nellie was so pissed off (since he told SJax he couldn't do that) that he's fining him.

    Bottom line, you may not agree with rationale behind the technical but the league has made that call so he should have received the technical.

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    if we're talking bull fouls lets not forget that the Mavs got raped by the refs the entire 3rd quarter and start of the 4th.
    Yea, I guess your right, but those calls didnt change the game as much as throwing Baron out, which were really the only calls i really hated



    I hate this guy so much, its all Ive been thinking about at work all morning

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    mardigan - don't hate the Mavericks. They're a good team. Not as good as the Spurs, but, who is?

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    mardigan - don't hate the Mavericks. They're a good team. Not as good as the Spurs, but, who is?
    I don t hate the mavs, I just hate Cuban, Stackhouse, Dirk,Terry, and Fieval goes west Harris

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    There were some bad calls both ways. I can't recall too many playoff games where there weren't bad calls both ways.

    While I don't agree with the league deciding that clapping at a ref's call against your team is grounds for a technical, it's the way it is so he should have received it. It's been explained to all the players that this will get you a technical. Nellie was so pissed off (since he told SJax he couldn't do that) that he's fining him.

    Bottom line, you may not agree with rationale behind the technical but the league has made that call so he should have received the technical.


    Most of the Mavs fans on here seem to be pretty fair, and unbiased. I just really hate the flops and things by Dirk and that punk Harris. I guess the same way you guys hate Manu huh?

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    I don t hate the mavs, I just hate Cuban, Stackhouse, Dirk,Terry, and Fieval goes west Harris


    I only hate Cuban....

    I can't hate Dirk, he hasn't done anything to warrant my hate.

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    Most of the Mavs fans on here seem to be pretty fair, and unbiased. I just really hate the flops and things by Dirk and that punk Harris. I guess the same way you guys hate Manu huh?
    Manu doesnt flop at nearly the rate Harris does, its almost immposivle for me to watch a game that he plays in. He really disgraces the game of basketball as far as Im concerned. I hate all flopping in general, yes even when Manu does it.

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