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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I actually feel sorry for the guy. I know he really wanted to win but wanting is not the same as desire.

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    The Mavs could bring the same team back and go 82-0 in the regular season and no one would believe they were for real.
    That gave me a good laugh

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    You know I dont feel sorry for Dirk, and I dont feel sorry for A-rod(as mentioned above). they get paid the big bucks and teams hire them for the role of a leader/best player in the team. Yeah Dirk is a great player, but when it came down to it in the clutch siutation, he has choked. Should the mavs get rid of him......NO!! Its hard to put blame on really one person. Just like what Avery did to us, Nelly did to them. He knows the players, knows the system, knows thier weeknesses and that is why we have GS in the 2nd round. Yes Davis was a baller, but come on does anyone honeslty believe they can keep up with the Rockets/Suns/Spurs.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I concur. I guess I'm a softy.

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    That article was a bit tough, but in some ways true. I would take Dirk in a heartbeat. He is very good, but obviously gave up. As a leader, he can't do that. I am sure the Mavericks will be good for years to come. Its not like this was his last chance to prove what he can do. I am sure he will. David Robinson was always criticized for being soft. It took Duncan and Avery to help David capture his first.

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    It may be shocking, but did people ever stop to think that, perhaps, the Mavs lost simply because the Warriors is one of the few teams that can expose the weakness of the Mavs?
    Why does it always have to be "heart", and the losing team being "soft"?

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    It may be shocking, but did people ever stop to think that, perhaps, the Mavs lost simply because the Warriors is one of the few teams that can expose the weakness of the Mavs?
    Why does it always have to be "heart", and the losing team being "soft"?
    Golden State averaged over 104 PPG in this series, including almost 109 PPG in the last 3 games, so maybe the "D" has once again left Dallas (er, _allas)?

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    My favorite is the last paragraph...


    Until the end of time, the 2007 Mavericks will be known as one of the softest teams in professional sports. A team devoid of character and heart, when it mattered most. It's a fitting moniker that starts with their best player.

    The SPURS are the SOFTEST TEAM OF ALL TIME!

    SPURS = SOFT



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    I wonder if they ran out of steam by the time they hit the playoffs. Did they peak too soon? I know that sounds like a cop-out but I'm trying to think if there are reasons other than Dirk's no-show for why the Mavs fell apart.

    Pop was smart in making sure the team was peaking at the right time. Avery was like a bulldog on their ass from the get-go, which I'll admit was important when they limped out of the start gate, but overall he focused too much on the regular season.

    It's not the main reason, but I think its an important reason to consider.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    AJ changed for the playoffs and I don't know why. I didn't see him smile the entire regular season and then he suddenly had his cheese-eating "aw shucks" at ude during the pressers in the Warriors series. I don't understand it at all. AJ just got another lesson from Nellie.

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    AJ changed for the playoffs and I don't know why. I didn't see him smile the entire regular season and then he suddenly had his cheese-eating "aw shucks" at ude during the pressers in the Warriors series. I don't understand it at all. AJ just got another lesson from Nellie.
    Avery still has a ways to go to become a really good coach.

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    The SPURS are the SOFTEST TEAM OF ALL TIME!

    SPURS = SOFT



    That's rich -- a Suns fan calling the Spurs "soft."

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    Avery still has a ways to go to become a really good coach.
    I think he's excellent, but he seemed to be unwilling to give the Warriors any bulletin board material and said the right thing, which ended up coming across as "just happy to be here", the death knell for the favorite. I'd bet that he never makes that mistake again.

    But you are right, AJ has a way to go, as does his team. Coaches typically don't just figure it all out right away, despite having the greatest regular season record of all time. Same goes with players. The Mavs are still paying their dues. Almost everyone has to go through it before they win.

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    I agree with what Steve Kerr said last night - he said he talked with Flip Saunders about what was happening with Dallas and Flip said the same thing happened to the Pistons last year.

    They were on such a roll that they didn't have to play any meaningful games for about the last 6 weeks of the regular season. They lost their hunger and their edge and it cost both the Pistons last year and the Mavs this year.

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    This wasn't all on Dirk and the media is blowing it out of proportion for the sake of sparking debate.

    Warriors were built to stop Dirk, it was up to the rest of his team mates to make shots to spread the floor. He showed up in Game 5 didn't he?

    Last year, Kobe had a complete flop of a game in Game 7 against the Suns, passed up open shots, regused to take over even in the blowout, etc....where was all this Kobe is soft crap then?

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    The SPURS are the SOFTEST TEAM OF ALL TIME!

    SPURS = SOFT


    whatever helps you sleep at night...

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    I think he's excellent, but he seemed to be unwilling to give the Warriors any bulletin board material and said the right thing, which ended up coming across as "just happy to be here", the death knell for the favorite. I'd bet that he never makes that mistake again.

    Coaches typically don't just figure it all out right away, despite having the greatest regular season record of all time. The Mavs are still paying their dues. Almost everyone has to go through it before they win.
    Avery certainly doesn't make many mistakes twice. For the most part, Avery can definitely motivate (although the Mavs didn't seem motivated until game 4 of this past series) with the best of them but he's still learning some of the nuances of coaching....but, like you said, coaches typically don't just figure it all out right way.

    I'd still rather have him than Nellie.

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    This wasn't all on Dirk and the media is blowing it out of proportion for the sake of sparking debate.

    Warriors were built to stop Dirk, it was up to the rest of his team mates to make shots to spread the floor. He showed up in Game 5 didn't he?

    Last year, Kobe had a complete flop of a game in Game 7 against the Suns, passed up open shots, regused to take over even in the blowout, etc....where was all this Kobe is soft crap then?
    Kobe got BBQ'd for that effort.

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    I'm no Dirk fan but dang.......hard-core criticism on par with almost saying "he should have never been born." Dallas has every right to be disappointed with all the high expectations but to put it all on one guy, I'm a-l-m-o-s-t feeling sorry for him. Thanks goodness the San Antonio writers mostly support our players--even after the large screw-up that happened with Manu last year. We all didn't crucify him--well some did--but appreciated his overall playoff efforts. I guess that's the difference in city support. Sad.........

    Because we all realized while Manu's mistake was dumb, and came at the wrong time and probably cost us a trip to the finals, we also remember if it weren't for his heroics we wouldn't have never beaten Detroit for the le in 05. I was more upset last season that the fact that we lost, not the fact that Manu fouled Dirk. That was probably the only call those idiot refs got right the entire series.

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    Well the Dallas media is full of idiots who might make a factual statement every ten articles IMO... being from Dallas, I havent even read any of those articles bc they do the same thing every year. When the team/player is in topnotch condition - its nothing but praise, too much praise sometimes. When the team/player is down in the dumps - they jump on him bad.

    Altho Dirk had a horrible showing in the postseason - no one can imagine the amount of criticism he has been giving himself. Dirk is a very internal person - he will never display his feelings for the paper/fans... but I'm sure he's hurt. He may have even cried. And I still respect him at the end of the day.

    The fans in Dallas are . Sorry, its the truth. You could see it plain as day during the games on TV, even at the arena sometimes its silence... its sad. *sorry went off topic* But the fans in Dallas will be ready to crucify you at the drop of a dime.

    I think Dirk will be in Dallas until his contract is up, I wouldn't think of trading Dirk for something that will not guarantee us a LOB, but if its for a unit that will make the Mavs legit contenders - then I'm all for trading him, I would prefer to bring in someone to aid Dirk if possible. A low post scorer, someone with some weight, someone not afraid to take some contact. But I doubt we can bring in someone, keep Dirk, keep Josh. I'm sure all teams are gonna want us to disband our big 3 and who wants TERRY? :

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    That's rich -- a Suns fan calling the Spurs "soft."
    Maybe I'm wrong but he isn't a Suns fan, it's KB24 new nickname.

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    Not like Dirk is right now....

    Either way, a larger portion of the blame IMO falls on Avery, Howard, and Jason Terry. Jason Terry was a compelte no show int his series. Howard the All Star showed up for the first half of games only, and Avery failed to make proper adjustments, motivate his team, and capitalize on his team's strength.

    If the Spurs lost with Duncan playing bad, sure a lot of blame would go on him...but it also would go on Pop, Manu, and Tony just as much.

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    I'd still rather have him than Nellie.
    Considering that AJ had been deeper into the playoffs than Nellie going into this matchup, it's a good choice. Too bad AJ didn't learn from Pop last year about abandoning your centers for the sake of a matchup.

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    Not like Dirk is right now....

    Either way, a larger portion of the blame IMO falls on Avery, Howard, and Jason Terry. Jason Terry was a compelte no show int his series. Howard the All Star showed up for the first half of games only, and Avery failed to make proper adjustments, motivate his team, and capitalize on his team's strength.

    If the Spurs lost with Duncan playing bad, sure a lot of blame would go on him...but it also would go on Pop, Manu, and Tony just as much.

    Howard always showed up for first half of games only - he did that all season. Typically Dirk was The Closer *shout out to TNT for those 50 million clips in the corner of my tv*....

    edit: And I agree on the Terry being a NO SHOW comment..

    And to the above poster I wish AJ would have learned that lesson from Pop last season... Well - let's hope he's learned it now. I dont know how this will affect the team next season...

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    Dirk had a bad series, so what. He'll be ready to go next year. The media used to say the same about Peyton Manning, but everyone jumped on his ing bandwagon when he won the Super Bowl. F 'em. Let them talk all they want. Dirk will have his year, it just wasn't this one.. or last one .

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