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    BaselineBum, you are way off base on this one buddy. The blood rule should be enacted in every physical sport. HIV isn't the only disease out there transferrable by blood, there's numerous types of Hep C out there as well. I'm sorry if I was out there playing I wouldn't want to be near any dude gushing blood all over the place. Get with the program.

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    The blood rule is stupid, and a direct result of piece of Karl Malone's ignorance and whining when Magic returned. There's no risk of HIV infection in playing a basketball game not involving Baron Davis and Dirk Nowitzki. I felt really bad for Nash having to sit out those couple of critical possessions. I'm ecstatic about the win, and I think we take it regardless of whether Nash is playing, but you hate to see them not get the chance.
    That's just dumb. The blood rule is perfectly sound. Its standard precautionary procedure to treat all blood as potentially infective until proven not.

    The CDC clearly states that, although less frequent, HIV can be transmitted via presence of contaminated blood in an open cut or through mucous membranes (eyes, etc).

    As someone else said, hepa is is by far the greater risk I would be worried about.

    Jeez, your post is perhaps the most asinine thing I have ever read.

    What a moron.

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    Is that trainer on the Spurs payroll bc he did an awful job just piling up bandaids one on top ofthe other

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    As I mentioned in the other thread, it's amazing that the trainers don't keep steptic pencil on the sideline.
    Nah, styptic wouldn't have helped...he was really bleeding...if this had been a boxing match, the ref would've stopped the fight.

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    If it was a small cut it would be one thing, but this was a gusher, blood would have been everywhere, including the floor...

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    Nah, styptic wouldn't have helped...he was really bleeding...if this had been a boxing match, the ref would've stopped the fight.
    I should have picked one thread to mention this in. I hadn't seen this thread yet. It probably wouldn't have worked, especially on a nose cut, but it seems like, when stopping bleeding is a priority, it would be part of the trainer's kit.

    I betcha it will be from now on in Phoenix.

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    shiiit you cant feel bad when you are up against a baller like nash....its not like this is the oralando magic we are talkin about. the same thing could happen to us next game...idk but against the suns you have to take everything you get.

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    The nose and scalp are amazingly vascular. You can actually bleed out from a scalp laceration if it's not controlled.

    Does anyone know if that was just a superficial cut or did Nash break it?

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    I don't know. What could of the trainer done differently to stop the bleeding. I'm no doctor but i would assume their are limitations when dealing with the nose besides totally wrapping the head which wasn't an option here.

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    The nose and scalp are amazingly vascular. You can actually bleed out from a scalp laceration if it's not controlled.

    Does anyone know if that was just a superficial cut or did Nash break it?
    Looked broken to me.

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    There's no blood rule in any other sport. It's straight up ignorance just because the NBA is the only league to have someone play in it who was known to be HIV positive. It was somewhat justifiable 15 years ago when we didn't know as much about HIV, but it's an antiquated rule that has no rational reason for being applied now.
    1) Most other sports with contact -rugby, soccer, waterpolo, handball- have the rule.

    2) The risk of getting infected is minimal -hepa is B and C>>>>>>>>>>>>HIV- but it is perfectly rationale to keep it at ZERO by preventing a bleeding player to play.

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    Feel bad for Phoenix on this particular loss, I would not have minded the Suns cutting power "accidentally" to pause the action for a while. They do need to give the team a little more time for clot action, especially in the playoffs.

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    I sure as heck wouldn't want some guy's blood on me.
    The starter of this thread is an idiot.

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    Can't agree with you on this one.

    Most physical contact sports have a blood rule - rugby league, rugby union, AFL, etc. I'd be surprised if the NFL doesn't have one, but they do wear a lot of padding.

    With the number of sexual partners some of these guys have, no way I want to go near their blood!

    It's a good rule. Bad luck for Nash today, but a good rule.

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    Its unfortunate that Nash had to sit out at the most critical time of the game...but that rule is necessary.

    That being said...you would think they could wrap some gauze strips around his head a few times to keep the blood from flowing too much.

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    I think they should have used SuperGlue. I kid you not. It had been used in one of the World Wars or perhaps Vietnam War, and is remarkably effective in sealing up wounds.

    Cyanoacrylate (what's in SuperGlue) is even sold as a medical adhesive, as far as I know.

    Yup... just checked Dermabond.

    God, I love chemistry.

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    they need a new blood guy! he sucked at that. I wouldn't fire him since I assume that isn't his opnly job. I thoght maybe they should of put a big patch or a towel and then cover it with one of those mases that covers the nose, was it ricky davis that wears one of those of detriot?. Then the refs couldn't see any blood.

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    Oh, and to all those who have called BB an idiot, HE IS NOT. He's one of the smartest posters in Spurstalk, just not on this particular topic.

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    The blood rule is sound and usually doesn't really effect the game when a player does have blood on them. But in this case there's no way you let a blood gusher back in the game. Blood would be everywhere.

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    I can't imagine that a big jagged cut across the nose could be closed up with CA. You've gotta have surfaces to join. There was too much blood and swelling across his nose.

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    Oh, and to all those who have called BB an idiot, HE IS NOT. He's one of the smartest posters in Spurstalk, just not on this particular topic.
    +1. I disagree with his take in this case, but he always brings good stuff.

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    I think the funniest part of this thread are all the people questioning the manner of medical attention by the guy who went to f'ing medical school. He's probably dealt with at least one cut in his career. Maybe, maybe two cuts.

    Question coaching moves all you want, but this is probably one situation where you should shut up and defer to the guy who makes at least six figures doing what he does.

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    I think the biggest problem with Dermabond is that you have to stop the blood first, it's not a miracle worker, it's just less painful than s ches and I think is less likely to leave a scar...

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    Yeah, once that sucker started swelling it was over. Nothing you could do without s ches.

    Oh, and cut BB some slack. Have you ever tried posting from a VT100?

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