That's fine, all I'm saying is don't be a when someone passes you in the lane that's ending in a mile.
If you're in the other lane, the people in the merged lane will always see you as the jerk who's trying to "cut in line". And the reason that is, is because there's usually fewer people in that lane so you shoot past everyone. And you want to guess why there's fewer people in that lane? Because the rest of us merged earlier like you're supposed to!
That's an interesting perspective, but if everyone did what you consider 'organized merging', wouldn't the bottleneck then be over two lanes? The lane that's ending where speed is decreasing (3) plus the one everyone's trying to get to that existing traffic is yielding to (2)?
Forgive me if I'm overcomplicating this, but I think there's some validity to what you're talking about and we're all dismissing you as an asshole driver.
Hey there doesn't have to be fewer people.... If you want to merge so early because you feel safer, more power to you. But you don't have to and neither do I.
I'm always able to merge with the flow of traffic after most people have merged. Saves me a few minutes sometimes and it would be that way for everyone if people stopped voluntarily extending construction zones one or two miles.
I don't think you're overcomplicating it, but consider that you are going to slow down when you merge regardless. Because even if you merge early there will need to be space created between you and the cars in front and behind you.
Lane 3 does typically slow down closer to the cones, but that's just as much because of traffic in lane 2 riding up on the car in front of them as it is Lane 3 waiting until the last minute. All you have to do is just apply the "every other car rule" same as you usually do. And even if you've already let someone in half a mile back, you let other cars merge in front of you if they've made their way up.
Your scenario would still occur whether the cones are 200 ft or 2000 ft away, to some extent.
With drivers these days, there's no way organization will ever be achieved.
No doubt. Just a rant.
I understand your desire for people to be considerate. It could work, but not with jerks and idiots on the road these days. When I drive, I assume everyone else on the road is an idiot.
I've seen people pull out of driveways without looking both ways, drivers in a turn lane go straight just to make time, etc. I'll slow hesitate at some intersections even though I don't have a stop sign, just because of some of the idiots they give licenses to nowadays. Doesn't NorCal even have a license now? Think about that for a second, when you think you don't need a seatbelt.
Danyo mentions being considerate. Aren't you being inconsiderate by flying to the cones and expecting someone who just saw you speed by their car - in a lane that everyone on the road knows that's ending - to let you in?
, we've all done it. I've just never really heard someone justify cutting in queue and being pissed at all of the other people waiting patiently.
Eh, I don't really know that it's a considerate/inconsiderate issue.
I know that people don't like being passed, but it's an emotional response. Logically, it's better for everyone if all traffic merges in the same area, close to the cones.
But like Danyo said, it will never happen. There will be assholes who drive wrecklessly and screech to a halt at the cones because they were trying to get past that ONE LAST CAR, and there will be assholes who don't let anyone in front of them after a certain arbitrary point, and there will be assholes like me ing about it for no reason.
I get on people's bumpers in the lane that traffic is merging in from about 500 feet on in because I'm an asshole and I"m not letting the assholes that cant merge for the 3/4 mile up to that point into the lane in an efficent manner.
As far as I'm concerned, you have plenty of time to get into the merge lane when they give you a mile warning.
If you want to wait til the last minute, then you get what you ask for.
No,....because it is an actual lane that is ending WITH NOTICE, as is an exit. You plan ahead you wouldn't have to barge.
You drive through the cones is like driving on the shoulder, cones are a temporary lane marker.
If you cause an accident doing this....you will be cited, plus the fine would be doubled in a construction zone.
I agree, it's plenty of time. Which why it baffles me that people are in such a hurry to merge, and so indignant towards people who don't think it's necessary to merge yet.
Because a of a lot of people wait until the cones ending the lane are right in front of them to move.
Not the ones who are trying to merge in front of you 400 feet from the cones. What's your beef with them?
That is not what you implied in your original posting.
I know, but Das Texan has a 500 foot cut-off. I'm wondering why 500 feet is the magic number?
If someone has a their signal on and seems to be having difficulty merging and doesn't seem to be barging by waiting at the last minute I will let them in. I usually try to let only one at a time because if you let more then one in then you open the flood gates.
random.
and even still i'll let people in the merged lane, unless there is no signal, then its definitely not happening.
I will almost always let big trucks in, but I have to admit I'm selective about others I let in. It really helps to be female, hot, and have a nice smile.
Andthe problem with this is?
One word....bottleneck
You're going to have that anyway. Do the cars that merge early go to some fantasy road in the sky with a lane for everyone?
I would expect this from you.
If that's all you are saying then thats cool.
The signage posted 2-3 miles ahead of the merger is there for a reason. 20 people have said why in this thread already, so it doesn't need to be repeated.
However, I will gladly cut off some I see in my rearview hauling ass in that lane because he thinks that lane is for him to do 85 in and force his way in at the absolute last second.
But I do see your point. There are people who try to merge in well before the lane ends and there is always some asshole who won't let him just to be an ass. That just creates more traffic than neccassary.
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