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I guess nobody found my Butler and White comment funny.
Hey, I was being serious!
I was thinking the same thing.
Kinda discouraging to see our players and coaches completely flummoxed 2 years in a row by an opposing team's adjustments.
Can't wait to see if this was only a one-game anomaly, or something more serious like last year's small ball debacle.
I guess nobody found my Butler and White comment funny.
Hey, I was being serious!
not at all. This series is not like last playoffs. Duncan is healthy this series, we took Suns out of their game for all game 1 and half of game 2. not vice-versa, what Dallas did to us last night.
Psychologically, all Spurs know we can beat the Suns, not like last series.
the concerned fans are mostly keeping silent, i would imagine hoping you and FWD aren't creating bad juju
LJ, you have to realize a lot of folks you're wondering about not being concerned are the same folks who couldn't see the Kurt Thomas starting idea paying dividends for Phoenix.
We'll know by the end of the first quarter Saturday how this series will play out. If the Spurs don't come out to make a statement, this series is probably over.
I'm just not buying it. The +/- stats are ultra convincing in some cases, but in other cases they are off base. This is one of the latter. Kurt Thomas was also sinking his jump shot like no other in game 2. Lemme ask ya'll this: If you're in total control of the spurs defense do you live with giving Thomas that jump shot if you're able to crowd a more dangerous player like Nash or Marion? Every time he hit that I said keep taking it. I'll live with it. If the Suns beat us because Kurt Thomas has become Richard Hamilton then we deserve to lose. It's like when teams leave Vaughn 7 feet of space in every direction and he hits his jumper. They live with it.
Pointing out the deja vu is the only hope in history not repeating itself.
in game 2 last year, the spurs were out of the game in the second quarter.Then in Game 2, the Spurs got their azz blown away with the lineup change paying immediate dividends
Last night the Suns didnt start pulling away until about 7 or 8 mins left in the 4th.
Amen to that.Pointing out the deja vu is the only hope in history not repeating itself.
No deja vu here. Business as usual for the Spurs.
I think the Spurs will make the requisite adjustments to the rotation (more Horry, Elson and Vaughn out, and Manu or Barry handling the rock when TP is out). Looking back to the 2nd quarter last night, it seemed like the Suns were able to make their run with Vaughn and Elson out on the court for a good portion of it. They needed better spacing on offense. You can crowd Bowen and live with any of his drives from a defensive POV. You can also sag off Vaughn and give him some shots to avoid the drive and kick. The Spurs' O ground to a halt with Vaughn, Bowen, and Elson on the court at the same time. Elson was close to clueless last night. He had a couple nice blocks but otherwise was ing up. I'm really surprised that Pop gave Elson as much time as he saw. My guess is that was Elson's last chance to earn minutes in this series. More Horry, as it were. With someone who can shoot and drive as the backup 1 and a big alongside TD who can stretch the floor and play competently we should see the Spurs' offense improve significantly in Game 3. Bowen's fine.
i think this is eerily reminiscent of earlier in the year. too much overreacting.
Duncan in foul trouble early, Stoudemire went crazy for a little stretch, and everyone else had off shooting nights. Spurs get to come home, play behind the home crowd, Duncan will get all the calls as usual and KT will be out of the game by the 3rd and the Spurs will take care of business.
im surprised you spelled reminiscent correctly. nice
yeah i wish
I've thought about it, but one key difference, as FWD said, is now the Spurs are coming home for the next two games, whereas last year they were going to Dallas.
Also, they aren't going to get killed on the boards.
But yes, it is worrisome if to beat the Suns we have to get multiple 30 point performances from TP.
point taken.Pointing out the deja vu is the only hope in history not repeating itself.
IMo it doesn't need to be.ut yes, it is worrisome if to beat the Suns we have to get multiple 30 point performances from TP.
Horry getting more than 2 points, Ginobili gettting more than 6 would help.
I think Bowen getting 9 or 12 is gonna be standard.
Finley didn't shoot ENOUGH, he only took 9 shots.
The ball just needs to move better, and on defense some changes from Bowen going to Marion, to Parker going to Nash, to Finley guarding KT.
If anything, I find this whole scenario eerily reminiscent of 2005.
In any case, it's way too early in this series to either be too concerned or too confident.
It's a five game series now with the Spurs having homecourt against a very tough Suns team. It should be a good series, no matter what happens...
mavs>suns
hoever manu>2006 is greater then manu 2007
If we lose game 3, then I'd be worried about the 2006 parallel.
But if we win game 3, then the 2006 parallel theory goes out the window--regardless of the outcome.
Right now, I feel it's a toss-up. Hopefully lady-luck is on our side, and the ball falls our way this year, or we'll do so well we won't have to rely on that this series.
yeah. if we lose games three and four, then win games five and six, i'll worry about history repeating itself.
lots of talk about how it's different because spurs are coming home but home hasn't been quite the same this season as in the past. anyway, i'm pulling for the spurs in this series, not trying to bash, just pointing out that i could see the series going back to phx tied up 2-2, nash is really getting deserate as he gets older and he doesn't lose his head about it
i'm not really that concerned until i see what kind of energy they play with in game 3. first game, decent energy. second game, a corpse would have had more energy than the spurs. they totally settled for the split and were ready to head by to san antone.
now, if that ass whipping in PHX didn't let them know that they are in a dogfight, then this is the beginning of the end of the spurs championship runs. they must come out with a high level of intensity and keep it going for the entire 48 minutes. everyone needs to understand their role and stay within themselves. vaughn, cannot press the issue and should dribble in instead of shooting jumpers. manu needs to be a wild man. tony needs to blow by marion but look to pass out or work on the middle game and blow by marion and shoot the short jumper or pump fake and get him in foul trouble. right now, tony is predictable, either a jumper or all the way to the rim. a middle game would surprise folks.
Last year's team STRUGGLED to beat its first round opponent; this year's team took care of business, and has now dropped a single road game in the playoffs.
It is a single loss; nothing more, nothing less - when a team relaxes against the Suns, the score is going to get out of hand quickly.
I guess if it's not a sweep people are cliff-jumping anymore, huh?
Isn't this the same Spurs team that lost a SLEW of games to truly inferior opponents this year? They relaxed and blew teams off almost inexcusably. Could it be, that after the level of success the Spurs have had against these Suns in the playoffs, that THAT is what happened?
I agree with 101A...Why don't we wait and see what happens Saturday before we start counting them out.
Last year, the Spurs were never really clicking, you could see them slipping in the first series against the Kings.
This year, the Spurs team took on the challenge of a very physical and very good Nuggets team, much like in 2005.
It's definitely a mix of both. I'd like to see how the Spurs fare in these 2 home games...game 2, no one outside of Duncan showed up. Ginobili really needs to step up his game. And despite the fact that this may seem like the dallas series again...difference is Spurs actually still match up really well with the Suns even with Thomas in the lineup. Last year, with Harris and the small ball change, Spurs didn't match up at all with the Mavs, hence the loss.
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