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  1. #26
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    Kidd is playing at a level rarely EVER seen. He is averaging a triple double, got his team past the raptors. He has hit a tough (considered in th east) team and his teammates suck balls. RJ is top 5 most overated players in the league. Wince blows as well.


    Kidd
    Nash
    Baron
    Kidd
    Nash
    Billups
    Baron

    I like Baron but Billups wouldn't have made those FT's and this game vs the Jazz would be over.

  2. #27
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    What Deron Williams did on Monday was awesome, but his defense (or lack thereof) will still keep him from moving up the list.
    Um. Okay.

  3. #28
    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    Kidd's numbers are sick. And he's been hitting big three pointers.

    It takes an aficionado to appreciate somebody who can dominate the game without scoring.

  4. #29
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
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    Kidd's numbers are sick. And he's been hitting big three pointers.

    It takes an aficionado to appreciate somebody who can dominate the game without scoring.
    Kind of like how Jeff can dominate the message boards here without "scoring" a single point.

  5. #30
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    Hinrich is underrated. Parker and Deron should both be above JKidd at this point.

    My list:
    Chauncey Billups (plays a more complete game, ie DEFENSE)
    Steve Nash
    Baron Davis
    Tony Parker
    Deron Williams
    Kirk Hinrich
    Jason Kidd

    However, the point of the thread is correct - all the teams but the Cavs have spectacular PGs in one way or multiple ways. And I would hypothesize that this spells doom for the Cavs, and is also a big part of the reason why the Mavs, not to mention the Rockets and the Lakers, were demolished. The era of the PG has officially arrived.

  6. #31
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
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    Hinrich is underrated. Parker and Deron should both be above JKidd at this point.

    My list:
    Chauncey Billups (plays a more complete game, ie DEFENSE)
    Steve Nash
    Baron Davis
    Tony Parker
    Deron Williams
    Kirk Hinrich
    Jason Kidd

    However, the point of the thread is correct - all the teams but the Cavs have spectacular PGs in one way or multiple ways. And I would hypothesize that this spells doom for the Cavs, and is also a big part of the reason why the Mavs, not to mention the Rockets and the Lakers, were demolished. The era of the PG has officially arrived.
    You're en led to disagree, by all means, but how can you rate a PG who's average a trip-doub in the playoffs as the lowest on the list?

  7. #32
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    You're en led to disagree, by all means, but how can you rate a PG who's average a trip-doub in the playoffs as the lowest on the list?

    She does not know what she is talking about. Kidd is still good and people think triple doubles are easy. Shows how much they know. Here is my list:

    Nash
    Kidd
    Baron
    Billups
    Parker
    Deron
    Hinrich

  8. #33
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    You're en led to disagree, by all means, but how can you rate a PG who's average a trip-doub in the playoffs as the lowest on the list?
    You're right, I didn't like Kidd winding up so low, either, I just think Deron and Hinrich are that good.

    But I wouldn't mind revising my list as such:

    Chauncey
    Nash
    Baron Davis
    Parker
    Kidd
    Deron
    Hinrich

    In order to get Kidd up higher. But he's not as he was a couple years ago, and no way is he better than the other 4 above him right now, in this postseason.

  9. #34
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    IMO, Deron is the best young PG in the league. That kid is a stud. I see no weaknesses in his game.

  10. #35
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    Baron Davis
    Chauncey Billups
    Jason Kidd
    Tony Parker
    Deron Williams
    Kirk Hinrich
    Eric Snow
    Steve Trash

  11. #36
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    Steve Nash
    Jason Kidd
    Chauncey Billups
    Kirk Hinrich
    Baron Davis
    Deron Williams
    Tony Parker
    Eric Snow

  12. #37
    No darkness Cry Havoc's Avatar
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    IMO, Deron is the best young PG in the league. That kid is a stud. I see no weaknesses in his game.
    Agreed. He has great court vision -- possibly the best sign of a developing point.

    I think next year he'll be one of the best fantasy draft picks for the money. He'll likely go late 2nd to late 3rd and produce late 1st-early 2nd round numbers.

    At the U of I, he really came into his own his senior year. He works like a horse and has an incredible basketball IQ. I can't say enough positives about him. He looks like the reincarnation of Kidd, and potentially better.

    Scary.

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    Derek Harper > all the guys listed. When it comes to point guards, the list begins and ends with Derek Harper. Kidd was great when he wore the green and blue, but he's a fluke now that he plays for another team. Same thing with Steve Nash: those two mvp awards are a fluke. When he was with us and made the all-star team, he was simply just going about his business and doing what he was supposed to.

  14. #39
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    Agreed. He has great court vision -- possibly the best sign of a developing point.

    I think next year he'll be one of the best fantasy draft picks for the money. He'll likely go late 2nd to late 3rd and produce late 1st-early 2nd round numbers.

    At the U of I, he really came into his own his senior year. He works like a horse and has an incredible basketball IQ. I can't say enough positives about him. He looks like the reincarnation of Kidd, and potentially better.

    Scary.
    I kinda feel like Williams is a fluke. Let's see him do it year in and year out like Brad Davis. That guy was a baller. He just did what he had to do and outplayed Magic, Isaiah, Stockton and other opposing point guards, like he was supposed to do.


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    Raymond Felton should be on this list. The only reason they aren't in the playoffs is because of Dwight Howard's fluke win on a fluke dunk by a fluke player against San Antonio. After that the refs would eject Stephen Jackson and Baron Davis from every game so that Orlando could win. And Charlotte never got any calls. If they had the 8 seed, they would have swept Detroit because they would have simply beaten a team they're supposed to beat.

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    Raymond Felton should be on this list. The only reason they aren't in the playoffs is because of Dwight Howard's fluke win on a fluke dunk by a fluke player against San Antonio. After that the refs would eject Stephen Jackson and Baron Davis from every game so that Orlando could win. And Charlotte never got any calls. If they had the 8 seed, they would have swept Detroit because they would have simply beaten a team they're supposed to beat.
    Adam Morrison is the second-best small forward in the league, right after Josh Howard.


  17. #42
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    Kidd sucked last night, specifically with turning the ball over. I was basing my list on the entire season as well as the playoffs. I thought Kidd was close to being washed up even before last year. While I don't necessarily like him, I can't ignore him averaging a triple double for an entire playoff series, even if it was against TJ Ford and Jose Calderon.
    Must say i've been impressed by Calderon's defense lately

  18. #43
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    Let's see him do it year in and year out like Brad Davis.

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