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    I believed from the start of the season that the Spurs were structuring the team to center around Tim and Tony. I never supported it because I have always thought that the Spurs need Manu to be successful to win a championship. When you look at the line-ups he plays within and the way the offense is dominated by Tim and Tony. Remember when Manu would get the ball in his hands late in games- or how they would get the ball to Manu at the end when the opponent was going to foul. Those days disappeared this season, as Pop wanted to give Tony a bigger and bigger role. I have felt all season that the Spurs were more than willing to decrease Manu to build up Tony's position on the team.
    The best players on the team have always taken a lesser role to build up other players. David did it for Tim, Tim did it for Manu and Tony, and now Manu needs to do it. Never did I think in a million years that Manu's confidence was that fragile.

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    Per an earlier post by another poster, start him.

    Manu just needs to get a few to go in the basket and should just drive or go to the 10 - 15 foot range ever time, no more threes for awhile.

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    You can call it a slump, but by God Manu is still contributing.

    Last two games 9 assists and 14 rebounds and 3 steals.

    In the loss, Spurs had a total of 14 assists (here is the problem), and 5 of them came from Manu. Only Duncan had more rebounds. In the game we won, again only Duncan had more rebounds than Manu.

    In a total of 32 assists, Tony and Manu have combined for 20 of them, with Tony having 11 and Manu 9. (anyone starting to see a problem with our assists ratio?)

    Someone said Horry stated there wasn't enough ball movement. Well, by god, he is right. Even in the win we only had 18 assists. And dropped to 14 in game 2.

    Hopefully in this stretch before Saturday, the Spurs will have some practice time to work out the assist problems. Correct that and they will be back on top.

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    Game 3 under the lights of the home crowd in San Antonio will be telling. If he gets to the rim and hits his first outside shot, I think we'll see the Manu of old emerge.

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    You can call it a slump, but by God Manu is still contributing.

    Last two games 9 assists and 14 rebounds and 3 steals.

    In the loss, Spurs had a total of 14 assists (here is the problem), and 5 of them came from Manu. Only Duncan had more rebounds. In the game we won, again only Duncan had more rebounds than Manu.

    In a total of 32 assists, Tony and Manu have combined for 20 of them, with Tony having 11 and Manu 9. (anyone starting to see a problem with our assists ratio?)

    Someone said Horry stated there wasn't enough ball movement. Well, by god, he is right. Even in the win we only had 18 assists. And dropped to 14 in game 2.

    Hopefully in this stretch before Saturday, the Spurs will have some practice time to work out the assist problems. Correct that and they will be back on top.
    he is contributing, but in an Oberto like manner. Manu is a star, and like Tim and Tony, we expect star like numbers. Manu needs to be at 20pts, 7rbs, 5asst, 2stl a game! I expect 25 & 15 from Tim and 20 and 8 from Tony.

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    exactly. Noone is saying Manu is not contributing. But at this point he should be carrying the team for stretches.

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    Manu is going to run wild in Games 3 and 4.

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    For the Love of Argentina Manu Please be a Man!

    Even if you don't score atleast bust someone in the mouth.

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    I think the problem may be that teams are falling way, way off his outside shot. They only care about limiting his driving abilities. If he can't get to the rim, his rhythm is affected a bit. He likes to hit close ones and then range his shot out as the game goes on.

    His feint forward with his driving foot has defenders almost falling over backwards to cover it. He needs to continue creating that space and knock down some treys. Hurt teams for playing you so softly, Manu!

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    You can do it Gino! I believe.

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    You can do it Gino! I believe that love is the answer, I believe, love will find a way.

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    For the Love of Argentina Manu Please be a Man!

    Even if you don't score atleast bust someone in the mouth.
    Ey! No way

    everybody put on n°20 jerseys on saturday (yeah, you too Mr Robinson)

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    trade Manu.

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    this is pretty disheartening to read


    he needs to almost eliminate the jumper from his game and get some layups/ft's

    the rest will take care of itself

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    Manu needs to have a breakdown like Andrei Kirilenko and wake up.

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    would you discount manu from the playoff as a factor if his game 3 production is 3 pts, 4assists, 5 rebs, 2to's ,3 stls????????????????

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    I quote Ginobili himself and a I'm a hater.

    Typical.

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    I believed from the start of the season that the Spurs were structuring the team to center around Tim and Tony. I never supported it because I have always thought that the Spurs need Manu to be successful to win a championship. When you look at the line-ups he plays within and the way the offense is dominated by Tim and Tony. Remember when Manu would get the ball in his hands late in games- or how they would get the ball to Manu at the end when the opponent was going to foul. Those days disappeared this season, as Pop wanted to give Tony a bigger and bigger role. I have felt all season that the Spurs were more than willing to decrease Manu to build up Tony's position on the team.
    You need to watch more Spurs games. Manu has still been the number one option late in games when the games are close. Even against Denver when he wasn't playing too well, Pop would call a play for Manu in the fourth.

    The only time I recall differently was the Parker penetration and kick to Horry ... but that was right after Manu had turned it over and Blake hit that toe on the line two.

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    Holy Manu get your head out of your ass this is the playoffs and this team is good enough to win it all. What is up with these puzzling lack of confidence quotes. This guy had a great series against the Pistons in the finals and they are twice the defensive team that the Suns are. Lets go Manu we need you. Stop taking so many half assed 3's and go to the hoop for starters, that will get you going.

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    You need to watch more Spurs games. Manu has still been the number one option late in games when the games are close. Even against Denver when he wasn't playing too well, Pop would call a play for Manu in the fourth.

    The only time I recall differently was the Parker penetration and kick to Horry ... but that was right after Manu had turned it over and Blake hit that toe on the line two.
    that was not the play
    horry said tp did not run the play pop called
    he saw what the d did and the rest is history
    listen to horry postgame comment that game

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    Manu can easily snap out of his funk at home now that the Spurs are headed there. Problem is, will he revert back to his old self when the series comes back to Pheonix?

    Also, I don't know why he is still your #1 ball handler in close games at the end. I can't remember the last time he came through for you in the clutch in the 4th quarter with a pass or shot. Usually his passes result in TO's which hurt the game. Saw in against the Kings twice last postseason, Game 7 against Dallas last year, and even Game 3 (or 4) against the Nuggets this year which led to the blake 2 pointer. Luckily Horry bailed him out...

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    Also, I don't know why he is still your #1 ball handler in close games at the end.
    he has not been our #1 ball handler in close games for a looong time now.

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    The problem isn't so much Manu, it's POP. He needs to play Manu more minutes. Just looking at his minutes from previous playoff seasons. He's averaging 33 minutes/game. During the playoffs this season, he's averaging 28 minutes/game. I don't understand why we don't shorten our rotation and play our best guys the majority of the time. I just don't see what Vaughn does that Barry can't do.

    Tim Duncan - 40 minutes (8 minutes left)
    Fab Oberto - 24 minutes (24 minutes left)
    Bruce Bowen - 30 minutes (18 minutes left)
    Michael Finely - 30 minutes (18 minutes left)
    Tony Parker - 40 minutes (8 minutes left)


    Bench

    Manu Ginobili - 36 minutes
    Robert Horry - 24 minutes (Sub Fab mostly in the 2nd half)
    Francisco Elson - 8 minutes (Sub Timmy when Nash is taking a blow)
    Brent Barry - 8 minutes (Backup Point Guard)

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    manu can not play over 30 minutes a game
    he needs to run like crazy drive not shot three pointers and rest
    attack!

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