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ES doing some good drive by damage in this thread...
Capitalism doesn't work very well when the state rigs the market to benefit lobbyists and campaign contributors.
ES doing some good drive by damage in this thread...
Capitalism - economic system in which everyone wants to live...including communists.
Communism - polticial/economic system in which no one wants to live...including communists.
Capitalism - people dying to get in.
Communism - people dying to get out.
Capitalism - they build walls to keep out.
Communism - they build wals to keep in.
Communism - prison
Capitalism - not
Communism - for people who want to be drafted into military service and conquer other countries and enforce opression upon their own citizens...like the lefties on this board.
The one thing you need to know is that the modern progenitor of communism never lived under it...in fact, he lived in he most capitalistic country he could find.
Just like it is now.
Capitalism - an economic system for greedy people
Communism - a political economic system for the greedy, controlling and envious people.
Capitalism - Golden State winning the le
Communism - the other 29 teams taking the trophy and splitting it 30 ways.
Idealized communism - you willingly giving the trophy up after going to the trouble of winning it...
Realized communism - you selfish pig for wanting to mystifyingly keep the trophy you just earned. If only people didn't want to keep what they earned communism could work.
Communism - has yet to be implemented according to Marx's true ideology(because the stupid capitalists keep exposing what a ty system it is).
The ideal is aboloshing class separation, opression, and discrimination
The reality has been the most extreme class separation, opression and discrimination yet devised by man.
Capitalism - implemented many times to much greater degrees of success than any communist state.
Communism - EVERYONE MUST BE ALIKE
Capitalism - Who gives a , I want a nice car.
Communism - belief system for people too stupid, naive and lazy to be religious fanatics
Capitalism - I want to be taller...I'll make some shoes to make me taller, and sell them to other people so I can make money and by stuff I want with it.
Communism - I want to be taller...so I'm going to cut off the legs of everyone taller than me, and throw that evil greedy shoe selling pig in prison...and I'll take those evil decadent shoes for myself...err...the state.
Capitalism - economic system invented by an honest jew.
Communism - political economic system invented by a dishonest jew.
Capitalist - Greedy person that realizes and admits he's greedy...
Communist - Greedy person that doesn't...or if he does, feels guilty and ashamed of it.
Communist - people that read Marx
Capitalist - people that understand Marx(that one is copyright RR)
Last edited by whottt; 05-16-2007 at 01:13 PM.
Communism - for people who want to be drafted into military service and conquer other countries and enforce opression upon their own citizens...like the lefties on this board.
The one thing you need to know is that the modern progenitor of communism never lived under it...in fact, he lived in he most capitalistic country he could find.
Just like it is now.
Cause Britian and Israel are Communist countries. Moron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyUu-8nbd58
Hooray communism
Eventually all economic systems collapse, most capatilistic system collapse under the load of their own debt, which seems to be the case which will happen to us when the majority of baby-boomers retire in the next 2-3 decades and the S.S.system collapses.
Apparently, Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were communists regimes in whottt's world.
Nobody "invented" capitalism, it's a pre-existing effect of human behavior.
I would go with Whottt's material. Oversimplifications work best in debates.
i like whotts explanation but its too late i had my debate today and i probably got an A on it just being the boss I am
Capitalism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communism
There you go, boy, run with it.
Proof?
The only ones I see collapsing are the communist countries...
Well Nazi does stand for National Socialist Party...and Hitler, like Marx, was a self hating jew who had absolutely no problem with idea of using force to seize power. I'd say the Japanese were a lot more like Islamic Fundamentalists than Commies though...till they got nuked into the 20th century...
Nobody "invented" capitalism, it's a pre-existing effect of human behavior.
Well so was communism ...a primitive form. And actually it still is...there's nothing progrssive or advanced about it.
The biggest problem with communism is it looks at the world from merely a survival POV...that will never be enough, and only a fool thinks otherwise...
Communism is an oversimplification...and an insanely unrealistic one at that.
Communism = Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che Guevara, Trotsky, Pol Pot, Montoneros, Tupamaros, Sendero Luminoso, Red Brigades, Ceaucescu and ing Hugo Chavez.
'nuff said.
how about instead of arguing on what system the government should enforce we decide for ourselves? oh wait, that's why capitalism is prevailing all over the world...
communism is unnatural and has to be forced on the population... its a system made for a familiy unit or a tribe, not for a nation people cant be expected to live that way. what is the incentive for a doctor to do better if he gets paid the same? why would a auto company make a safer car if they all get paid the same? the answer: human compassion. but if that existed, there wouldnt be war or this discussion in th first place.
communism is left to those without free will, like hive minds of ants and bees.
It's called state capitalism...and it still sucks compared to Democracy...and Capitalism.
China will have its own problems very very shortly. Theyre riding high as it is, but inevitably, the labor force will unionize.
Their currency will be properly valued. Their trade deficit will become larger and larger. etc, etc...
Restrained Capitalism, I actually like the term. Doesnt change the fact that it wont last forever. By forever, I mean in the next 20 years.
One, we don't live in a true capitalist society. The US is a form of capitalism, but it's not a real one.
The general idea behind capitalism is that people should be allowed to do what they want to survive. It revolves around compe ion leading to development and everyone being able to find a niche on their own. It's main bonus is that it allows for a much higher standard of living and much higher growth potential, but it also allows for insane levels of poverty and grand collapses of economy.
Communism is extremely controlled. The central idea is that the government should provide everyone with what they need. This would theoretically remove theft (the idea being theft is jealousy based, so if everyone had all they needed, no theft), etc. It's main benefit is the supposed prevention of poverty, but it does not leave much room for growth. It also puts the well being and standard of living of everybody at the hands of the few people in charge.
That's very basic. There's a lot of information about things out there. It's usually a good idea to check wikipedia (just don't use it as a source).
Communism is anti-Christian . . . that's why boutons likes it
"why boutons likes it"
link?
go a straw man, smegma breath.
I hope that helps...
hmmmm.... i could go for hours on this kid, this debate has been raging since 1848
dude go read
Well, DPRK does stand for Democratic People's Republic of Korea, so North Korea is a republican democracy, right?
duh...
True, and the same applies to unregulated capitalism...only fools (a.k.a Ayn Rand worshipping Libertarians) would think self interest is the only think that motivates human behavior.
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