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  1. #26
    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    thanks for the joke. so great defensively that even devin harris makes him his . so great that nash is playing better versus TONY parker than he did versus SMUSH parker.

    if parker is so great defensively, why is bowen on nash now?

    wait till billups handles nash and leaves the better defenders like prince and rasheed to take care of marion and stoudemire.



    the Spurs-Suns series, not "adventures in fantasy basketball".
    Almost all of the spurs fans agree that Parker should be guarding Nash and not Bowen. Bowen should be guarding Marion. Parker has been doing great on Nash almost everytime he guarded him.

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    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    he needs to just keep the Suns as his favorite team, cuz after all this bull I don't think any Mavs fans will take him back.
    I think you have nut that you need cutting off.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Almost all of the spurs fans agree that Parker should be guarding Nash and not Bowen. Bowen should be guarding Marion. Parker has been doing great on Nash almost everytime he guarded him.
    then explain how Nash's numbers have gotten better against San Antonio, especially considering he just finished a series being guarded by that most feared of players, Smush.

    I remember Nash scoring at will in game 1 with TP on him. I remember the only thing stopping Nash that game was his own bloody nose.

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    The Pistons first need to get by the bulls then the cavs before we can talk. If we make it to the Finals the spurs match up way better with us then the suns.

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    Billups would abuse Nash, obviously. But Bell could guard Rip as well as just about anyone, and Marion would do a good job on Prince. He struggles to defend stronger players like Odom, Carmelo, not rail-thin players who aren't as quick as him like Prince. I don't think KT would play too much as neither Webber nor Rasheed are dominant post players right now. The matchup advantage I would give the Suns would be Diaw against Webber. Rasheed could guard Amare well, but there is no way Webber could stay in front of Diaw.

    I just can't envision the Suns beating the Spurs, then losing to the Pistons. Then again, I didn't think it was possible for the Mavs to lose in the Finals last year either, but it happened.

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    then explain how Nash's numbers have gotten better against San Antonio, especially considering he just finished a series being guarded by that most feared of players, Smush.

    I remember Nash scoring at will in game 1 with TP on him. I remember the only thing stopping Nash that game was his own bloody nose.
    No one stops Nash. Bowen can shut down Marion though and Parker's speed does bother Nash and force a lot of turnovers.

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    Rasheed might be a top 5 post player but he rarely posts up. He is usually waiting at the 3 point for his shot. Detroit just doesn't have the offensive fire power to go back at the suns. Also Webber was held scoreless 2 straight games. With Ben Wallace gone, the suns will be able to attack the rim better along with not getting killed on the boards. Webber will be useless in this series as the suns will exploit his lack of speed.


    Keep going. Please.

    For the record, Im not saying Detroit would KILL Phoenix. Im just laughing at this bum for never watching a team then spouting an opinion as if he knows what hes talking about.

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    Keep going. Please.

    For the record, Im not saying Detroit would KILL Phoenix. Im just laughing at this bum for never watching a team then spouting an opinion as if he knows what hes talking about.
    The reason the Pistons are beating the bulls is that the bulls can't score. No team has yet been able to shut down the suns consistently. The pistons will have to score 100+ to beat the suns and I don't think they'll be able to do that. Also without a dominant low post player it will be harder to control the tempo. Similar to what Golden State did to Dallas.

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    No one stops Nash. Bowen can shut down Marion though and Parker's speed does bother Nash and force a lot of turnovers.
    which explains why nash had more turnovers per game against the Lakers until Bowen started guarding him, and then he had 8 in one game.

    DO you just run simulations on NBA Live and then come spouting that stuff like it's sure to happen in real life?

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    The reason the Pistons are beating the bulls is that the bulls can't score. No team has yet been able to shut down the suns consistently. The pistons will have to score 100+ to beat the suns and I don't think they'll be able to do that. Also without a dominant low post player it will be harder to control the tempo. Similar to what Golden State did to Dallas.
    No seriously, keep going....its getting better....

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    which explains why nash had more turnovers per game against the Lakers until Bowen started guarding him, and then he had 8 in one game.

    DO you just run simulations on NBA Live and then come spouting that stuff like it's sure to happen in real life?
    Bowen guarded him the whole series but when Parker guarded him, he did better than Bowen. Cut your nut off first since that was deal you made.

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    I'm with Dark Reign, MavsFan1000 is hilarious

    In my biased opinion (if you can even call it that since i'm a pretty negative Pistons fan),

    DET would win.

    Sheed will go down on the block. Amare's defense sucks. Marion can't guard him. Webber actually looked great on the block last time we played them, and running the offense through him was very effective. We played that game w/o Billups who got injured in 2nd quarter, and still blew them out. Prince was great. IIRC, Rip was our weakest link against them, and was still effective enough.

    Delfino was great against them last time. , even Murray looked great against them. J-max, i don't think played, but can be effective at big ball if the Pistons go w/ that. He's quick, moves his feet, and is usually in the right spot defensively.

    PHO defense while much improved still has a problem guarding all 5 positions when all 5 are scorers. As evidenced in the Spurs game, someone was always open, and it was usually Nash's man.

    Our new and improved rebounding has been great for the most part. I don't think it will be a breeze, but DET will get it done.

    If DET (and PHO) get there.

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    I'm with Dark Reign, MavsFan1000 is hilarious

    In my biased opinion (if you can even call it that since i'm a pretty negative Pistons fan),

    DET would win.

    Sheed will go down on the block. Amare's defense sucks. Marion can't guard him. Webber actually looked great on the block last time we played them, and running the offense through him was very effective. We played that game w/o Billups who got injured in 2nd quarter, and still blew them out. Prince was great. IIRC, Rip was our weakest link against them, and was still effective enough.

    Delfino was great against them last time. , even Murray looked great against them. J-max, i don't think played, but can be effective at big ball if the Pistons go w/ that. He's quick, moves his feet, and is usually in the right spot defensively.

    PHO defense while much improved still has a problem guarding all 5 positions when all 5 are scorers. As evidenced in the Spurs game, someone was always open, and it was usually Nash's man.

    Our new and improved rebounding has been great for the most part. I don't think it will be a breeze, but DET will get it done.

    If DET (and PHO) get there.
    Phoenix had a marathon game against the mavs that they heroically came back in. No surprise the suns laid an egg the next couple games.

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    I think the Pistons have much more experience than the Suns. They are a great defensive team, they are not old, they have pretty good shooters, a reat bench, and they have Billups, who is just as clutch as Nash is.

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    Phoenix or the Spurs might not beat Utah

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    Pistons are actually up there in age, average being 30.1 years after throwing out the highest and lowest on the PO roster.

    HOWEVER, Suns age, using the same formula, are 32.9. 32.9!

    So much for my argument that Detroit is older, but I do think they are slower. Pound for pound, Suns have the ability to inject their will into the games pace. Amare is the inside presence Detroit does not have, Nash is faster than Billups by a mile (y'all are crazy if you believe different!) and Marion is miles faster than Webber, which isn't saying much but it is what it is. However, Detroit is built to play total team ball and have been running their inside-outside game pretty well post C-Web, and word is they're pretty good at it. Prince's man-on-man defense may be able to cover Webber's butt so he can dish, but not for 6 or 7 games

    There are no good perimeter defensive powerhouses on Suns, but they would run the asses off Detroit. I'd expect Detroit to adjust after 1-1/2 games, however they'd have to do so without C-Webb on the floor much.

    It would be a close series.

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    Just so its out there, I never said Detroit would win.

    But his breakdown of what Detroit is and what Detroit is not is so completely off base and untrue, I just laugh aloud when reading.

    I think it would be a great series, personally. Phoenix is a damn fine team when they stay on the bench.

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    Both times Detroit played Phoenix this season, they scored over 100 points, including a win at Phoenix:

    http://www.nba.com/games/20070316/DETPHX/boxscore.html

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    Guess we'll never know after the suspensions have almost guaranteed the Spurs will beat the Suns.

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    pistons would destroy the suns in 4 games

    the suns would whine about the calls, the dirty, the physical game <<< them

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    I would have Detroit Beating them in 6.

    Just becasue i don't like the suns.

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