Why would a player remember a foul if it didn't hurt?
You either want it to hurt or make the player think he'll be hurt next time.
To not expect players to react when your leader is decked right in front of you is asinine. What you do is enforce the rules on a case by case basis instead of leaving yourself no room for interpretation or mitigating cir stances. What happened is that Phoenix was punished for a cheap shot delivered by the other team.
So the next time theres a Detroit incident, we will see how "stupid" the rule is.
Stand off of the court like everyone else on your team was smart enough to do.
I'm getting sick of Suns fans. Do ppl need to explain the rule 100000000000 times to them?
The Spurs had their second leading scorer taken out of the playoffs by a dirty hit. Nobody left the bench and the guy committing the foul wasn't suspended a single game. In fact, he committed another hard foul on another Spur the following game. Nobody left the bench. If your players don't know the rules, it's not the NBA's job to bail them out. Grow up and deal with it.
This just shows how pathedic Horry is to go to violance is unexceptable if karma exsists Suns will win
intentions to fight or not amare and diaw broke the rule.
I've been browsing this forum throughout the series and I'll be making my first post.
I've always had lots of respect for the Spurs. The Duncan/Robinson era was one that we won't see again. Anytime you have two bigs dominate... it's a rare thing. But after this series my mentality of the Spurs has gone from class acts to just con-artists.
Now, hear us Suns fans out, as I think I speak on behalf of most of them.
Consider these key facts:
-Robert Horry instigated by the rough foul. Sure he needed to foul and grabbing around the waist would have worked, but instead he choose to lower his shoulder into Nash.
-Earlier in the game both Duncan and Bowen ran onto the court during a hard foul call. Neither are suspened. Yet two of our players, who both went in to calm the situation, rather blow it up, are now suspended for a must win game.
If your proud to have a person like Robert Horry on your team, shame on you. I'll be honest, I was dissapointed Raja Bell stooped to Kobe Bryant's level last year.
By this post, I'm not looking to start a war. Just showing you a Suns fans thoughts...
Chris Sheridan puts it more eloquently than I ever could do, so here's the article:
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...sheridan_chris
If Karma exists, it's the reason Amare and Diaw are suspended.
every player in the league knows that rule. save for a couple of suns, apparently.
You sit on the bench. That is how you support the team.
What help was Amare or Barbosa to their team? None.
All their stupidity did was further injure their team.
I feel no sympathy for them, personally. They knew the rules and they broke them.
To quote Shaq ( can't believe I am- what is world coming to?) " You do the crime, you have to pay the time."
Robert deserved his suspension- love the guy, but he does.
No one was unfairly punished here.
Pathedic?
Violance?
Unexceptable?
Exsists?
WTF language are you speaking, rube?
So, basically Suns fans want the NBA to start regulating intent?
Putting Pat Burke in goon mode..... WTF?? o let me show you to the clue vending machine. Insert coin....
If you thought about this for one second, you'd realize that this is exactly WHAT THE REFS WILL BE LOOKING FOR. The first goon hit will be an instant Flagrant 2 and ejection. Then where will they be?
if you read 07 seconds or less, or whatever that toilet tissue book was that I read.
Amare is about as dumb as mud on a post.
So him rushing out in that situation and getting himself suspended isn't suprising.
Or as I like to say, God don't like ugly.
Um, that's an insider article, so all that shows up is the first two paragraphs calling it stupid. That's about as eloquent as you are.
Explain to me why the NBA should ignore the rules for your team, when it has rigidly stuck to the leaving the bench equals an automatic suspension for everyone else since the inception of the rule. Players are responsible for their actions.
For example, I think the Horry suspension is way too harsh. But if Horry didn't want to be suspended he shouldn't have committed a hard foul or he should have figured out a way to look a little more like he didn't mean to do it. Once he made the hit he lost control of his own fate. Therefore what I think doesn't matter because Horry broke the rules.
I'm even more eloquent.
It's a rule. Follow it or face the consequences. If you don't like the rule, get it changed, but don't complain about it's existence after several years and expect it to be ignored.
and nash chose to drive right at horry with no room between him and the sideline.
difference is, there was no altercation. a player goes to the ground hard and his teammates come off the bench to see if he's alright. that is no subject to the rule. which, of course, is why they were not suspended.
-Earlier in the game both Duncan and Bowen ran onto the court during a hard foul call. Neither are suspened. Yet two of our players, who both went in to calm the situation, rather blow it up, are now suspended for a must win game.
stoudemire and bell weren't responding just to nash lying on the ground playing dead but rather to bell trying to start something with horry. altercation. suspension. fairly clear.
roflIf your proud to have a person like Robert Horry on your team, shame on you. I'll be honest, I was dissapointed Raja Bell stooped to Kobe Bryant's level last year.
a sun fan thinks?By this post, I'm not looking to start a war. Just showing you a Suns fans thoughts...
No Pat Burke?! God help us! We have no chance!
They wanted the NBA to regulate intent when they wanted Bowen suspended for his vicious leg sweep on Amare's surgically repaired knee or Bowen's flying donkey kick of Nash's vaginal area. Why should this be any different?
Earlier in the game both Duncan and Bowen ran onto the court during a hard foul call. Neither are suspened. Yet two of our players, who both went in to calm the situation, rather blow it up, are now suspended for a must win game.
How can you say that the leauge was right? That shows that the out come is unfair
The Suns need to be careful as to not to overreact to fouls and such.....the ref's may see it as a type of retaliation and may call it more one sided. It is a fine line.
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