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    minus his objectivist philosophy I actually like this guy... i would want to see his voting record to see how crazy he really is on social issues though before i totally commit to that.

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    dont know if this helps but at least mookie might like it:

    www.pe iononline.com/RPRNC08/pe ion.html

    pe ion to keep all debates free.

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    minus his objectivist philosophy I actually like this guy... i would want to see his voting record to see how crazy he really is on social issues though before i totally commit to that.
    washington post

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    Paul needs to spend about 2 years in a Russian Prison...

    I suspect both his anti-abortion stance and his, if we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone, stances will undergo a drastic change.

    Seems like a relatively smart fellow, except when it comes to the understanding of how shortage of resources and over-population have been the cause of...oh, every single conflict in the history of man.

    And believe it or not..."let's leave them alone" has been tried by at least one side in..oh, every single conflict in the history of man.

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    he is against amnesty, which is liberal of him, compared to Bush and McCain

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    If we end up paying taxes to the new world order i'll just not pay them and go to jail.

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    you could not pay them now, just dont file or lie on your return, youll incriminate yourself, theres no law anywhere that says we must pay income tax

    income tax is DIRECT and UNAPPORTIONED

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    If we end up paying taxes to the new world order i'll just not pay them and go to jail.
    That is very intelligent of you, sir.

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    I don't know what it is, but when I think of Argentinians, I think of people who are experts in every aspect of 9/11!

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    I don't know what it is, but it seems like all dudes from Victoria have such a strong bond for sticking up for each other.


    Ritual masturbations and erotic acts in the same room seems to be the only plausible explanation.

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    I don't know what it is, but when I think of Argentinians, I think of people who are experts in every aspect of 9/11!
    You also believe explosives brought down the WTC?

    And what hit the pentagon was not a plane?

    But of course, you're one of the crowd

    And what does "are experts in every aspect of 9/11" mean?

    You don't need to be an expert to understand that planes, with terrorists as pilots, were responsible for 9-11.

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    Argentinians are the only nationality that are privy to all classified sources of 9/11 truth data, so their independent conclusion based on such sources are flawless.

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    You deserve to be insulted because you somehow thought we were going to fight a war in which no one fought us back...of course there are going to be people join up.

    It could be the most unjust war in the world, and people are going to join up to fight in on the unjust side...you simply don't understand the complexity and stupidity of the human spieces.

    Some people are just looking for a cause...

    Especially when they are born into an oppressive human rights hole governed by religious, gender and ethnic hatred, like the ME. Because it beats sitting around starving, and it provides an outlet for the outrage at being born into a ty life...being dealt a ty hand, and having no voice to speak out with, or you are summarily killed, or imprisoned.

    God damn you are detatched from the true nature of the World... and especially in the ME...

    It must be nice to sit here in the abundant shelter of this country and get inoxicated on a bunch of bull fantasies about how nice life would be if only, it weren't the way it is.


    What about the people joining up on our side? You don't give two s about them, do you?


    And people fight back in wars...that's what happens in wars....if no one fought back, it wouldn't be a war.


    And seldom are they popular, no matter how justified.


    You know what makes a war a popular one?

    Winning it.


    ing, you must be a Buffalo Bills fan or something.
    Geez where do I begin. So now your telling me whott that the reson why there are radical muslims is because they lack opportunity?

    Well I may not 'understand' the world around me or the 'ME" but destabalizing that region even more than it was before doesn't seem to be a bright idea but I guess since your so 'worldly' you already know that. You say an 'unpopular' war? How about an unecessary war? People would support a war if they could understand why we are fighting it. Many of the folks in the USA have woken up to realize Iraq was the wrong place to start a fight..I know whott you are willing to spill the blood of 10,000 Amerficans so you and your party could save face. Your not stupid whott you'r a coward. And I would tell that to your face.

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    I know whott you are willing to spill the blood of 10,000 Amerficans so you and your party could save face.
    Is that what your calling blacks these days?

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    However, US financial power was even more fictional than this. It is usual to contrast the USA’s financial actions after 1919, generally considered ill-thought-out and even irresponsible, though rarely considered in their true political light as described above, with those after 1945, when the USA is generally seen to have acted to put the world’s financial house in order, in a judicious, even altruistic, use of its great financial power, to lay the basis of a multilateral management of the world’s financial affairs. In truth, the Bretton Woods ins utions set up after 1945 were designed to serve the USA’s political interests just as much as were those after 1919, albeit in a slightly more enlightened fashion. If they turned out nevertheless to be unstable, this was another element of the tragedy of American diplomacy, this time, its financial diplomacy.
    That the world’s money had to now be managed thorough a political mechanism was clear to all acute observers. The questions were in whose interests it would be managed and by what means. As Keynes had noted, gold had functioned well in the 19th century as a stable basis for currency mainly because discoveries of new deposits had, exceptionally in the history of gold as money, kept pace with the expansion of production. The mismatch between productive and monetary expansion without such an exceptional occurrence in the 20th century could be expected to worsen as Fordism expanded productivity to an unprecedented degree. The Age of Gold had ended for another reason also: the Great War had concentrated it in the vaults of central banks—pre-eminently the Federal Reserve—never to be released even to settle matters between central banks, the preferred method being earmarking:Gold is out of sight—gone back into the soil. But when gods are no longer seen in a yellow panoply walking the earth, we begin to rationalise them; and it is not long before there is nothing left . . . Thus the long age of Commodity Money has at last passed finally away before the age of Representative Money. . . It is not a far step from this to the beginning of arrangements between Central Banks by which, without ever formally renouncing the role of gold, the quan y of metal actually buried in their vaults may come to stand, by a modern alchemy, for what they please, and its value for what they choose.54
    That's a good find. The point about deflation due to an insufficient money supply has always been the downside of the gold standard. The Free Silver movement in the 19th century was based on parts of the country believing that a lack of money was slowing growth unneccessarily, although there were political motivations as well. A gold standard works best, but if there is not enough gold for the amount of transactions in an economy and there is constant deflation, then the government has to find another form or forms of backing along with gold. No one has found a perfect solution to this problem. Bimetalism - backing the currency with both gold and silver and having the government set the ratio between the two - does not work.

    I read not too long ago that if you divided up all the gold in the world equally for every person on earth that's not used in industry or for jewelry, then everyone would get less than an ounce. Whatever the perfect monetary system is, one thing it will do is contain neither deflation or inflation in the long term. A gold standard can do this as long as the economy doesn't grow faster than the gold money supply for a long period, as the article said. A fiat money standard will always contain long term inflation whether it's issued by a central bank or Congress issues it themselves, because the pressure to inflate is always there.

    "The Age of Gold had ended for another reason also: the Great War had concentrated it in the vaults of central banks—pre-eminently the Federal Reserve—never to be released even to settle matters between central banks"

    I don't see that as a problem for the gold standard. All it would take is one Executive Order and all the assets that the Federal Reserve System shareholders own become the property of the federal government, and the Fed bankers own alot of gold.

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    Back to the original topic, Ron Paul has given Giuliani some homework:

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Texas Rep. Ron Paul questioned former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's qualifications to be president Thursday, suggesting he would not support him unless he read several specific books and "report back to me."

    "No, I don't think he's qualified to be president mainly because of his views," Paul said of his fellow Republican presidential contender during a press conference he called "Educating Rudy." "And no, unless he would read the books and report back to me and say, you know, you've changed my mind -- then I would reconsider."

    Paul said he thinks Giuliani is simply misinformed about foreign policy and terrorism. He suggested that the former mayor read four books: "Imperial Hubris" by Michael Scheuer, "Dying to Win" by Robert Pape, "Blowback" by Chalmers Johnson and the 9/11 Commission Report. Paul was joined by Scheuer, the former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit.
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    Check out this awesome speech by Paul he gave it on the house floor last night

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    Interesting article and a sharp word of advice for candidate Paul...

    How Can Ron Paul Do It?
    By Curt Maynard


    I wonder if the average supporter of Ron Paul has really given much thought to the idea of how Ron Paul, a relatively unknown politician from Brazoria County Texas is going to pull off the big win. He certainly deserves it, far more so than any of his likely opponents, men of no character, liars and charlatans really.

    My guess is that the average Ron Paul supporter probably doesn’t have too much problem with the idea that the last two Presidential elections have been hijacked – perhaps they think the bad guys have given up and won’t be back in 2008.

    I’ve already see dozens of articles outlining the fact that the neo-cons don’t like Congressman Ron Paul, that’s really no surprise, Ron Paul is a conservative; they’re not. I’ve seen some articles that seek to convince you and I that the neo-cons are on the run, and that Paul just might pull it off in 08.

    There is nothing more that I’d like to see than Ron Paul become our next President, primarily because he represents our last chance, that is the voters last chance, because if Paul doesn’t become the next President of the United States of America, I don’t see a ‘democratic process’ continuing through 2012.

    The reason I like Ron Paul is because I think he is aware of this too. I think Paul recognizes and understands some of the more pernicious policies at work now and their true purposes and I think he is against them. However, I find myself often pondering the question, how exactly can he pull this off, how can he get around the obviously pro-neo-con, anti-conservative media and how can he be sure ‘they’ don’t steal the 2008 elections?

    I am absolutely certain of one thing though, I am certain that Ron Paul had better not apologize for anything he may have said or done up to this point in his career, because to do so equals certain death. The Zionist media has perfected this approach, they know exactly what they’re doing; they’ll dredge up some past indiscretion or faux pas and bait the unwary politician/spokesperson into apologizing for it. At that point they go for the throat, just ask Cindy Sheehan, who has been relegated to complete obscurity, or ask Trent Lott, who not only lost his position as Majority Leader, but is now safely condemned to a well deserved fate of anonymity and irrelevance. Ask Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), remember him? He actually spoke the truth when he said back in March 2003 in respect to the Iraq War, “If it were not for the strong support of the [American] Jewish community for this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this.,”[1] Of course Moran immediately apologized for stating an obvious truth, and ever since, he’s been effectively marginalized, have you heard of him since?

    I’m afraid that if Congressman Ron Paul doesn’t come out with a radical new approach and no apologies he’ll experience the same fate as the above. Paul is absolutely going to have to challenge the mainstream media’s credibility – there is no other way, because if he doesn’t, if he plays the game by the media’s rules, he’s screwed. There is no doubt that Paul owns the Internet blogs, mostly because the blogs are the last voice of the people, minus the media’s muzzle. In reality, the blogs represent the views of the majority in the United States; because the Zionists have effectively silenced the majority by way of the MSM, just look at the trash the media puts out today, don’t pay attention to the fact that your government has deceived you into a war, look over here at these ultra-hip metro-sexuals and their neat materialist lifestyles. Forget about the fact that there are 20 million + illegal aliens running wild in the United States and/or that they’ll rob your children of their future, look over here at these independent feminist strippers strutting their stuff while discussing heavy topics like what video game will be a mega hit next year. Please people, wake the up.

    If Ron Paul wants to win, he’d better come out with the truth, if he does it now, the people of this country and the Internet blogs will support him. If he does nothing, but support the status quo he is sure to lose, why would or should anyone get excited about him? Why would or should anyone turn out to vote for the status quo? Hav3en’t we all had enough of that?

    Ron, you need to get radical, and for God’s sake, whatever you do, do not apologize.
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    Ok Afro...I've given you plenty of time to rething and recant some of the statements you made from a position of what was clearly ignorance...


    Geez where do I begin. So now your telling me whott that the reson why there are radical muslims is because they lack opportunity?
    Yeah idiot...economic hardship is a great recruiting tool...

    You think the majority of these bags joining the fight are leaving 70 k a year jobs?



    How the do you think Hitlet got so many Nazis all of a sudden?


    Let's be clear on something...I know for fact you don't know what the you are talking about.

    You don't have a ing clue how this mindset is started, the root causes, and that's why you guys need to shut the up.

    These mother ers were not born terrorists you idiot.
    They(as in the majority) are not leaving 100k a year jobs to go blow themselves up in Iraq, you idiot.
    The indoctrination that takes place to turn human beings into anti-life beings is done with the knowledge and consent of the mid-east governments...to an extent.

    The leaders of these countries are ty leaders, the lives of their people sucks ass...the one skill these bags have as leaders, is staying in power, and managing to deflect a large portion of the unrest of their citizens away from themselves.


    You are truly a moron, and any time you want to debate this further feel free...I always enjoy wathcing a dumbass get smarter.




    Well I may not 'understand' the world around me or the 'ME" but destabalizing that region even more than it was before doesn't seem to be a bright idea but I guess since your so 'worldly' you already know that.
    No...you champion keeping the same system in place that cause this movement in the first place.

    Fool.


    You say an 'unpopular' war? How about an unecessary war? People would support a war if they could understand why we are fighting it.

    Well many people need to study for themsevles before commiting themselves to stupidity...

    They need to think like a sentient creature and not a ing amoeba.

    They need to disassociate their innate dislike of W, pull their head out of Walt Disney's ass and do studying on the human speices, it's evolution and history, and it's habits.

    I have...have you?


    Many of the folks in the USA have woken up to realize Iraq was the wrong place to start a fight..I know whott you are willing to spill the blood of 10,000 Amerficans so you and your party could save face.

    You stupid a hundred thousand Americans joined up or resigned to continu7e fighting this war last year...

    You ing idiot, how can you claim you support them?

    You support those that fight them, you give them encouragement, and you put the bullets in their backs every time you do. Every terrorist that stays to fight just one day longer because they know if they can hold on long enough...

    Our stupiud ing anti-wars will lose this war for us...

    Is your responsibility.



    You're just afraid...don't call me the coward...I tried to join...did you?


    Or did you take the easy way out....




    Your not stupid whott you'r a coward. And I would tell that to your face.
    Big ing deal...I'll be more impressed when you go say it to a US soldier that just signed up to fight. '


    Take your ing propaganda, and your shallow knowledge, and shut the up...and go learn something before you starting talking from a position of ignorance.


    Does a lack of opportunity cause this problem...

    What a ing idiot you are. Of course it does. Of course it always has. Any time there is poverty radical ideologies breed.

    ing stupid ass.

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    What's next GGA...

    You going to try and say a lack of opportunity isn't the cause behind crime such as theft, murder? Behind gangs?



    You know...you sound like a guy that has never been poor. You're a fool.

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    Then where are all the mexican bombers? You pretend to know so much. Why? Because you've been on cruises that take you to every giftshop in europe. How many of those trinkets were made in China.

    Seriously, your mental condition has been certified and do ented by your own govt. You went to them and said "I want to defend my country". They said "Umm, not thanks". They shoved you out in favor of drug addicts and 3rd strike felons. Think about it...they don't even want you to push a ing broom. You opened your mouth and personally raised the terror alert level.

    Have you ever thought about treatment? That doesn't include the fantasy tale of some dead surgeon?

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    You know Clam, I am going to give you a break. You make all
    the GI's out to be somekind of freaks, s of the earth types.

    As an ex-GI, even at my age, if I EVER see you don't tell me
    who you are, because I will find out how damn brave you are.
    You may have a banquet on my ass, but I damn sure will have
    a sandwich on yours. And that is a fact.

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    Thanks for the break ray. I said they are signing up drug addicts and 3rd strike felons. Now, if you want to call them freaks and s s, thats up to you.

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    Breaking one my rules, you are a number one asshole.
    GI's are some of the finest people on earth. But how the
    would you know. I doubt you even have a job.

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    What do you mean? You refered to them as freaks and s , not me. I was simply stating that we're signing up drug addicts and 3rd strike felons. You didn't know that? Gee, I thought you knew everything.

    You don't want to meet me, ray. I'm not one of those sex slaves being held captive that you like to have your way with.

    When you say job, do you mean something like a 9 to 5 gig where you have to answer to somebody? Man, that would suck. But I did work one day last week. Does that make you approve?

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    What do you mean? You refered to them as freaks and s , not me. I was simply stating that we're signing up drug addicts and 3rd strike felons. You didn't know that? Gee, I thought you knew everything.

    You don't want to meet me, ray. I'm not one of those sex slaves being held captive that you like to have your way with.

    When you say job, do you mean something like a 9 to 5 gig where you have to answer to somebody? Man, that would suck. But I did work one day last week. Does that make you approve?

    Spitball shot.


    By the way, we now see how you view our military, drug addicts and felons.

    You're a .

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