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    I don't blame Pop entirely because IMO free throw are all mental. When Duncan struggles from the line it puts more pressure on the other players to knock down their free throws.

    Also, Parker needs to get better at the line right now he is only shooting 66% that is not good for a PG.

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    Man, if the Spurs could get their together, they would be #1 in the Kori rankings.

    Rasho's fault.

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    on the other hand, Bowen's already got his percentage up quite a bit this year, and timmy's not doing too badly.

    i always wondered why more people don't do the reggie miller thing and go for the chalk. i think the sweaty hands thing affects players more than they realize, and taking the time also slows them down for a few minutes, which addresses the over-adrenalized FT problem (this seems to be Parker's problem - he looks like he's got too much energy and so they're not under control enough.)

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    I think Tim Duncan is a free-throw cancer. The Spurs should trade him for Austin Croshere.

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    Do the Jason Kidd thing.

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    I think Tim Duncan is a free-throw cancer. The Spurs should trade him for Austin Croshere.
    You are a funny person ShoogarBear .

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    Free throw coaches are more about the mental, but do tweak mechanics where necessary.

    We need to do something, because the various "efforts" made by our coaches aren't working. You know, the things like...

    * Pop saying he's going to ignore it and let Tim figure it out on his own.

    * Pop saying we just suck at it and accept the fact we can't shoot them for crap.

    * Asking "director of player development" Brett Brown to work on it last year (didn't see any improvement there either).


    Why is it okay for other teams to go get a FT shooting coach, and subsequently significantly improve their shooting, but somehow is doomed to fail for one of the most professional organizations in the NBA?

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    Well someone obviously helped Bowen this summer -- a free throw coach or someone else. Last season he stood several inches to the left of center and had some other things wrong in his mechanics. This season he stands in the middle and has a much smoother stroke.

    Whoever helped him should try to help the others. (But I think they are probably doing that already.)

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    Im sure Bowen hired a FT coach, cause heaven knows the Spurs organization cant coach . {aggie esfan}

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    Maybe Barry showed Bowen a few tips on how to shoot free throws.

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    Tpark, the only thing worse than the Spurs FT shooting is your nagging, non-factual, non-reality based posts.

    As much as I bag on the guy, Malik went out and got his own FT shooting coach last summer, and he's probably the best guy on the team behind Manu and Barry, but I guess that doesn't indicate a damn thing. I mean the Spurs have coaches, and despite the shooting percentage of our players going down here in SA, it's obvious the coaching staff is addressing this issue properly.

    Seriously Tpark, quit being such a dork. Contribute some facts and discuss the matter at hand. All this petty personal cheapshot makes you come off like Nbadan on the rag.

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    Free throw coaches are more about the mental, but do tweak mechanics where necessary.

    We need to do something, because the various "efforts" made by our coaches aren't working. You know, the things like...

    * Pop saying he's going to ignore it and let Tim figure it out on his own.

    * Pop saying we just suck at it and accept the fact we can't shoot them for crap.

    * Asking "director of player development" Brett Brown to work on it last year (didn't see any improvement there either).


    Why is it okay for other teams to go get a FT shooting coach, and subsequently significantly improve their shooting, but somehow is doomed to fail for one of the most professional organizations in the NBA?
    You can't crystallize the problem much better than that. The fact that the Spurs are such a professionally run outfit yet they have this glaring FT anomaly that they refuse to address properly is as maddening as it is illogical.

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    All this petty personal cheapshot
    yet your the first one to mention me in the post calling me numb nuts.

    Pot kettle aggie.


    BTW, that Malik getting the SHOOTING coach, was about, 4 years ago.

    Bowen I dont think hired a FT coach and now hes a good FT shooter.

    How do you explain that?

    Devn Brown shot 80 some odd percent from the line last year, now hes not shooting AS good last year, was it something hte coaching staff told him to do?? I doubt it.

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    "Maybe Barry showed Bowen a few tips on how to shoot free throws."

    Barry has an unorthodox, too-wrist-oriented, kinda flat shot, sorta like the weird shot of Shawn Marion. While Brent does well with his shot, I wouldn't want Brent teaching anybody on my team about shooting mechanics.

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    Tpark, who cares if it was last summer or the summer before that. Point is, Malik went out and got his own FT coach. That tells me he wanted to work on his game over the summer and felt he wasn't getting the coaching he needed from within the organization.

    Just because you "don't think" Bowen got a FT coach doesn't mean he didn't. Maybe Kori can ask him about it next time she gets a chance, and put the matter to rest.

    As for DBrown, his pattern of degression on FT in conjunction with the rest of the Spurs after getting here to SA tells me that the staff is not doing anything regarding improving the team's ability to shoot FTs.

    Applying some deductive reasoning to the situation (in conjunction with Shoogar Bear's stats) tells me that either we're not shooting FTs at practice, or at best we're giving cursory attention to the matter.

    Completely unacceptable IMO. I bet if you took a poll of the league's scouts that at the top of the list for the weaknesses of the Spurs would be our FT shooting. And again, our refusal to address the situation is dumbfounding.

    We have a professional squad mentored by a staff that prides itself on being on the cusp of technology when it comes to scouting both potential acquisitions as well as upcoming opponents. It uses some of the newest software to scout opponents and highlight tendencies/weaknesses, and does it all in one of the most advanced training facilities in the league.

    Why then is our FT shooting work in the dark ages? About the only attempt at solving the problem I ever heard of was last year where guys would have to stay after practice to shoot FTs based on how many they had missed in the prior games. That is a punitive, not constructive, solution to the problem, and one that memory serves was abandoned after a short time period of 2-3 weeks.

    The refusal to address this situation by arguably one of the top staffs in pro hoops is confounding, if not downright negligent.

    Oh and Tpark, go suck an egg pal. Every time we try and have a discussion about things like FT shooting, you show up and piss on the conversation, making petty comments about the posters involved and referring to the greatness that is Popovich, while not even addressing the problem at hand.

    So don't give me this pot-kettle bull , you've been taking cheap shots for the last two years, your history of pathetic personal attacks when anyone criticizes your daddy Pop is about as infamous as our ty free throw shooting.

    Have a nice day.

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    The myth of me being a popsucker is quite overplayed and old.

    Get a new shtick because yoru constant pissing is old.

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    Okay ' .

    You're right, the myth is old, we've progressed to it being a cold, hard reality.

    I just laid out a lengthy fact/observation based post on our problems with FT shooting, and all you can come back with is "I'm not a Pop lover, and I'm tired of your ing."

    Good to see you're contributing so much to the conversation. Thanks for playing.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if there was a dropoff between pre-spurs seasons and after joining the spurs for newcomers. Its obvious whatever the coaching staff does, there not doing it right/good enough. But maybe they spend less time on FT's and more on off ball defense, defending the inbound pass, etc....

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