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Damn, Kaster just came strong in this thread.
And I agree with his assessment about the Lakers, and Jerry Buss 100%. Great teams are proven over decades, not just years.
Testy Lakers Fans = the truth really hurts. Get used to the middle of the pack.
MadDoc
Damn, Kaster just came strong in this thread.
And I agree with his assessment about the Lakers, and Jerry Buss 100%. Great teams are proven over decades, not just years.
Translation; you're right Kaster, Malone punked DRob in his prime like a Brooklyn hooker and the Lakers have a rich winning history.
Funny how you research way back into the time machine to find stats of Malone-DRob matchups early in their careers and actively respond to each post, but when Whottt pulls out the DRob-Shaq matchups (when Shaq was in Orlando) in response to your "Shaq has always been better than DRob" argument, you don't say a word? You look at the stats on basketballreference.com. and DRob is close to triple double numbers.
Boy am I shaking over the Laker's fans defend their hired thug - Malone who I will strongly and correctly say is very, very over-rated. I WILL STATE FOR THE PERM. RECORD THAT HE IS NOT A TOP 3 REAL ALL TIME FORWARD AND IS IN FACT FALLING BEHIND AS NEW STUDS APPEAR: DESPITE THE FOOLISH PUNDITS TO THE CONTRARY = Why? I WOULD TAKE THE LAKER'S WORTHY or BAYLOR, BIRD, ERVING, McHALE, EVEN the Short Big O, GARNETT, and ESPECIALLY DUNCAN FOR ANY BIG GAME OR EVEN SEASON ANY TIME OVER MALONE ON MY TEAM. THIS TRUCK DRIVING THUG WHO COULD TURN OUT MASSIVE STATS GRANTED = SIMPLY DID NOT ELEVATE OTHERS WHEN IT COUNTED & WAS AMONG THE ULTIMATE BIG GAME CHOKERS = NO RINGS DESPITE A GREAT COACH AND TEAMMATE AND AFTER HE SOLD OUT AND LEFT THE JAZZ = THEY MAY WELL BE FAR BETTER OFF WITHOUT HIM. IF FACT, I PROBABLY WOULD EVEN TAKE BARKLEY WHO AT LEAST WAS ENTERTAINING.
Duncan is so much better in so many phases, and continuing to improve even, than Malone ever was face it. We will so enjoy watching Duncan school Malone again when he doesn't have Shaq behind him or the refs letting him thug the lane the whole game. Look at SI game 3 picture, last year or film of Malone just clobbering Duncan and no foul was called = happened all series and was a travesty. And you clowns on lakerground.net talk about the Sterns?
As a boy I routinely enjoyed my favorite team at the time, the Celtics thump your team year in an year out. Now as a man who picked up on the classiest and a consistently excellent team in the mid 80s living in SA and have stuck with them despite all the media to the contrary = I am enjoying the fruits of sticking with them = total dominance over the next decade over LA = who may not even be the best team left in your friggin city! How great is that? For sure you don't have the best forward, the steady and under-hyped Brand runs circles around your over-hyped loose cannon Odom. Admit it, Kobe who you all love, has personally for ego sake, destroyed a great franchise and dark clouds are all around.
Admire your loyalty to them though in an off-handed way - someday, surely glory days will come back to the Lakers, the NBA will ensure one of their best market is protected. Probably, one day they will barely miss the playoffs, and surprise ala Ewing a large market team has first choice. No worries on that, your current "great" wonderboy GM and front office will mess that one up as well.
MadDoc
Quote: "but when Whottt pulls out the DRob-Shaq matchups (when Shaq was in Orlando) in response to your "Shaq has always been better than DRob" argument, you don't say a word? You look at the stats on basketballreference.com. and DRob is close to triple"
Shaq never faced D-Rob in the playoffs until 1999. Those are regular season stats when the two played each other twice a year. And it wasn't like Shaq was completely destroyed. He still had strong games as well.
Bottom Line: I would rather be a Laker fan than a Spurs fan....sorry those are the breaks. I like the spurs....almost respect them and I like their players....now. In the past, not so much, you want to know why....becuase they sucked and weren't fun to watch. Oh, and I have a Drob Rookie card in a nice plastic case..still...didn't like the team that much over the years.
well...this part is right.Malone punked DRob in his prime like a Brooklyn hooker and the Lakers have a rich winning history.
"While I would rather be a LakerFan etc."
To each his own, I will go my grave disliking a team that despite denials in public, obviously and secretly caved to the likes of Kobe Bryant, incredible talent that he is.
However, I greatly and truly admire your supreme loyalty to your battered team - probably feels like it has been for the Spur's fans all these years. It will come around the NBA and media is certainly in your corner on reviving Laker glory, but I would not trade what I have in Spursfandom anyday. At least you are a fan still of this great game unlike so many sports fans.
Thanks for your posts - it has been an interesting discussion, Out.
MadDoc
God dont you guys get it, if the lakers suck this year which all common sense seems to point to, they may draft another great talent, we have to hope that they stay mediocre to good, like the mavericks or the old one and done T-wolves, for as long as Kobe plays. I hope theyre a fifty win team, because god knows they cant beat anyone in the playoffs.
One final point on Robinson vs. Malone = starting out a team de novo, I would still go with Robinson over the MailTruck, the Admiral led biggest one year turn around to that point of all time. I also believe that Robinson and Stockton would have won several championships, for all of Malone's stats and hard work = something never worked out. Tough luck but it happens.
And by the way DR almost became a Laker (was recruited heavily to sign as a free agent which he technically could of that year he came out of Navy) but kept his loyalty to the Spurs - he would have been unstoppable early in his career with the Lakers of the showtime era = he was that scary good! Think how the history of the league would have changed other greats might not have shifted teams etc.
MadDoc
Dear Laker Fan:
After last night I might have to increase the sympathetic Px for you all. Was it an aberation or is your team really that bad? (I believe it was an aberation but come on - to the friggin da Bulls!). Moreover, once again you trail your new big brother in the same city (the friggin Clippers).
Must give Golden State some confidence but I would all kidding aside, have to bet your Lakers on that one - Kobe wouldn't let them get embarrased two games in a row and will go down with guns blazzing if the Lakers get behind.
If I am wrong on that one! = blow up your team early as cons uted!
MadDoc
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