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    I assume you're talking about the breast-aids.

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    This is a strange argument, kind of like downgrading tall players because an elevated basket gives them an unfair advantage. Tim is a fine athlete whose body was built for basketball.

    The system of every team in the league attempts to turn its best players into hall-of-famers. The difference with the Jazz and the Spurs is the superiority of their players and the level of committment of their coaches.

    Kobe wouldn't be a hall of famer if he weren't allow to freelance and shoot 40 times a game...

    He was a hall of Famer before he started doing that... so that argument is kind of stupid...

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    Yeah, that wasn't well-worded. Kobe would be a hall-of-famer no matter what system he played in, and Dell Harris did a poor job with him early on. But he's only going to score 81 points a game if he pulls every chance he gets. I just don't get how someone could downgrade TD for playing in a system, when IMO getting a superstar to ignore his ego and do so is the most difficult and elevated aspect of the game.

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    Tim Duncan led the Spurs with 27 points in their series-opening win over Utah. Duncan has averaged 26.5 points per game in the opening games of the 26 playoff series in which he has played, and only four players in NBA history have higher scoring averages in playoff series openers than has Duncan (min.: 15 series): Michael Jordan (34.0), Jerry West (27.7), Shaquille O'Neal (27.6) and George Mikan (26.6)

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    Why is Tim Duncan so good? For the same reason the Spurs are so good: FUN-DA-MEN-TALS.

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    Why is Duncan so good?
    because of FANS like us!

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    he's really a robot, programed to kick ass. but miss freethrows so he looks normal

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    Because he didn't learn basketball at a young age. He learned it already as an adult, from professionals, who didn't let him learn bad habits early. Hence, the fundamentals.

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    Because he didn't learn basketball at a young age. He learned it already as an adult, from professionals, who didn't let him learn bad habits early. Hence, the fundamentals.
    He was 14, not quite an adult. And he was a swimmer first, it's been said he could have been an Olympic swimmer had he stayed with it.
    He was an athlete, already well disciplined, before he picked up a basketball.

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    What I like most about Duncan in the games I've seen over the years is the fact that he always takes what the defense gives him and exploits it. If they're overcompensating to defend him, he's happy to give up easy buckets to his teammates and let them get the glory. On the flip side, if the defense calls for him to be aggressive and he puts up 30/15, he doesn't care so long as they won the game.

    Superstars just don't do this. Kobe is ALWAYS going to hoist 30 shots no matter what the opposing team does. Yet, with Duncan, you get the sense he wouldn't give a if he went 12/8 for an entire series so long as it was the best way to help the team win. Fans here would know better than me, but when's the last time TD forced his own offense out of a sense that he needed to pad the statsheet?

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    ...when's the last time TD forced his own offense out of a sense that he needed to pad the statsheet?
    Never.

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    Why is Tim Duncan so good? For the same reason the Spurs are so good: FUN-DA-MEN-TALS.
    ESPN has pe ioned the league to just say the Spurs are DA-MEN-TAL

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    He's 6'11" with long arms, great hands, quck feet and reaction-time, great court vision, extremely intellegent, an excellent passer, he has a strong core and base for posting-up, a variety of moves and footwork used based on defender positioning, great anticipation and shotblocking ability, one of the best bank shots ever displayed in the NBA, disciplined, competes at a high level, and a LEADER.

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    It seems the only thing left out is that he's funny too!
    What's not to love?

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    Because he's Tim Duncan.

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    Because the refs give him all the calls.

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    He's 6'11" with long arms, great hands, quck feet and reaction-time, great court vision, extremely intellegent, an excellent passer, he has a strong core and base for posting-up, a variety of moves and footwork used based on defender positioning, great anticipation and shotblocking ability, one of the best bank shots ever displayed in the NBA, disciplined, competes at a high level, and a LEADER.
    Or that

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    Duncan is 3 double doubles away from holding the record for most consecutive double doubles ever in nba playoff history.

    How the is this guy so good?
    Is it pops system? Is it the NBA has no good defenders?

    He cant outjump anyone...

    He cant outrun anyone....

    He's the definition of hard work always pays off. The definition of learning the fundamentals of the game. The definition of the saying the game is more mental than pyhsical.

    Duncan could've easily finish his career as the best big man ever, Duncan could score 50 AT WILL, but would prefer to finish his career as the best teammate ever, and by doing that can arguably finish his career as both.

    I admire this guy, he comes to work everyday, never es, never puts down teammates, never goes to the media with dirty laundry, never complains PERIOD. Duncan is a one in a lifetime type of player..... every other great player you can think of had some kind of bad trait, career moment or something.... what's duncans?

    I often wonder if he would be the same type of person under a different coach.. He and pop seems to mesh really well.

    Anyway i'll stop babbling now & I hope you guys realise that you really need a more show boating type franchise player to give you guys more ratings etc, I mean who wants to watch this boring player for the rest of his career. We'll give you Our entire starting 5 for this guy








    P.S Go Jazz ( its always more fun rooting for the underdog)
    We've been spoiled and we're lucky to have him. It's good to see fans of other teams appreciate what this guy does. Oh the day when he retires

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    Duncan is a great athlete people overlook that because he is not a big jumper but he runs the floor as well as any big man that has ever played the game and he has some of the best hands of any big man of all time. He is the most fundamentally solid player maybe the game has ever known, with unrivaled intelligence and an incredible will to win.

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    Why is Duncan so good?

    First of all, some people talk about his lack of athleticism. Two things about that:

    1) He's more athletic than people realize

    If you've watched a lot of Spurs games, you'd see Duncan throw down on anyone - on any occasion. He's got hops he doesn't use much, largely because it is just like Tim Duncan to not go way above the rim on an uncontested shot. How many times has he wound up alone at the rim and just laid it in? No defender, no extra effort necessary. That's Duncan for you.

    Duncan could not play the sort of defense he is known for without great strength, quickness of reaction, and lively legs. Great defenders, especially interior defenders, need those attributes.

    2) Athleticism is overrated

    Larry Bird wasn't very athletic. He had decent speed, good quickness, and he was well-conditioned. George Gervin was big, but not fast. Steve Nash is slower than many other NBA point guards. However, these players could and did (present tense for Nash) outplay most of their counterparts. How they did it was very simple: the player with the ball in his hand dictates things. When the player has the ball, he knows what he's going to do. The defender, though he may be bigger, faster, stronger, and quicker, doesn't know. A versatile player like Bird, Duncan, or Nash (Gervin was not as versatile on offense) can beat you from the perimeter, in the paint, or with the pass. Therefore, while a defender have a physical advantage on those player, that defender's burden is to figure out what it is they're going to do. Once that defender commits, the great player has a countermove ready to go. No post player has more countermoves than Duncan does.

    My point is, an advantage in athleticism would have to be a big advantage to negate the advantages a skilled player brings.

    Second of all, when you think about the Duncan skill-set, what doesn't he posess - aside from a weird difficulty at the free-throw line?

    Duncan can reliably:

    1) Score from the perimeter
    2) Score in the paint
    3) Pass the ball
    4) Rebound
    5) Handle the ball
    6) Play man-to-man defense
    7) Block shots

    Yeah, I guess Duncan's not an outstanding steals man either. Oh well.

    Third, and most important, Duncan is poised. No one in the NBA keeps his head better than he does. When a game is going badly, he plays through it. When adversity emerges, he steadies the ship. When called out by opponents or the media, he ignores it. The Spurs are noted for playing the 48-minute game, and it's a reflection of Duncan's influence on the team. If he's not going to quit, neither are his teammates.

    Duncan is unfailingly positive, supportive, and hardworking; he's perhaps the most coachable player in the league.

    That's why.
    Duncan> Larry Bird whit George Gervin

    That´s why. Tim is GREAT!

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    Why is Tim Duncan so good? For the same reason the Spurs are so good: FUN-DA-MEN-TALS.

    Can you please explain further what you mean when you say fundamentals?

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    He means dirty cheap shots and cheating.

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    he's really a robot, programed to kick ass. but miss freethrows so he looks normal

    Help me understand why free throws are difficult for some pro b-ball players, not just TD. It is something that has few outside variables, something that the player can practice, and execute in a game without interference exactly as he had practiced it. Shouldn't all players be shooting 75% to 80% free throws?

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    Because of his bulgy eyes

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    Can you please explain further what you mean when you say fundamentals?
    I didn't say it (fundamentals) but I agree with it.

    When you watch Tim play, watch how he rebounds the ball. He never brings the ball down under his head. He keeps it high and away from a defenders hands.

    You would be surprised at how many people don't do that. Also, he can shoot with his left and right hand. I'm not talking about jump shots, I am referring to layups and hook shots etc.

    His moves in the post (specifically his footwork) are usually by the book. He rarely gets caught out of control.


    If he made his freethrows he could even be better.

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