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I agree about LeBron but I think it would be a case like against PHX in '05 and Amare. Let him get his and stop everyone else. That will be enough to win a series.
Bask in your lottery glory my friend...at the moment...its all you have!
I agree about LeBron but I think it would be a case like against PHX in '05 and Amare. Let him get his and stop everyone else. That will be enough to win a series.
Spurs last 3 games against the Cavs...all Spurs losses...
Code:NBA Scoreboard - February 13, 2006 SACLE87101 Final PORCHA9183 Final WASNOK9697 Final TORMIN9894 Final NYDAL72100 Final MEMGS8179 Final UTALAL8894 Final San Antonio (40-11)Cleveland (30-21)87 101 1 2 3 4 T San Antonio 19 25 18 25 87 Cleveland 18 27 26 30 101 Final RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score SAN ANTONIO SPURS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Bruce Bowen, SF 31 3-6 1-2 1-1 0 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 8 Tim Duncan, FC 37 7-14 0-0 5-7 3 7 10 5 1 1 1 1 19 Rasho Nesterovic, C 21 3-5 0-0 0-0 1 3 4 2 0 1 2 3 6 Tony Parker, PG 32 2-7 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 4 1 0 7 3 4 Manu Ginobili, SG 28 5-11 0-2 2-3 0 7 7 3 0 0 3 5 12 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Nazr Mohammed, C 17 3-4 0-0 2-4 2 2 4 0 0 1 3 3 8 Michael Finley, GF 18 2-4 2-4 1-2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 7 Sean Marks, FC 9 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Nick Van Exel, PG 19 2-5 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 5 Fabricio Oberto, C 6 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 Brent Barry, G 13 2-3 0-1 2-4 0 2 2 0 1 1 0 1 6 Beno Udrih, PG 9 4-4 3-3 1-3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 12 TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 33-65 7-13 14-24 6 29 35 19 3 5 18 17 87 50.8% 53.8% 58.3% Team TO (pts off): 18 (20) CLEVELAND CAVALIERS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS LeBron James, SF 41 19-33 1-3 5-8 2 1 3 5 4 0 2 0 44 Drew Gooden, PF 30 4-10 0-0 2-4 7 3 10 0 2 1 0 3 10 Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 8-19 0-0 1-1 6 5 11 1 0 1 0 4 17 Eric Snow, PG 36 3-7 0-0 0-0 1 2 3 6 0 1 2 3 6 Sasha Pavlovic, GF 18 2-5 0-1 0-0 1 1 2 1 0 0 1 4 4 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Damon Jones, PG 25 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 5 Donyell Marshall, F 18 1-5 1-4 0-0 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 3 Stephen Graham, G 26 4-7 0-0 0-0 1 4 5 0 0 0 0 5 8 Anderson Varejao, FC 12 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 3 3 0 1 0 0 3 0 Mike Wilks, PG 2 2-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 Martynas Andriuskevicius, C 2 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Alan Henderson, PF DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 45-92 3-10 8-13 18 23 41 16 7 3 5 22 101 48.9% 30.0% 61.5% Team TO (pts off): 6 (4)Code:NBA Scoreboard - November 3, 2006 NOKIND10091 Final PHIORL105103 Final MILTOR92109 Final NYATL92102 Final DETBOS10188 Final NJMIA8591 Final CLESA8881 Final CHAMEM8396 Final SACCHI8988 Final MINDEN112109 Final UTAPHO108104 Final PORGS89102 Final SEALAL112118 Final Cleveland (2-0)San Antonio (1-1)88 81 1 2 3 4 T Cleveland 23 20 19 26 88 San Antonio 18 18 20 25 81 Final RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score CLEVELAND CAVALIERS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS LeBron James, SF 42 14-26 1-2 6-11 1 9 10 4 1 1 2 3 35 Drew Gooden, PF 29 3-6 0-0 3-3 2 7 9 1 2 1 1 3 9 Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 28 4-9 0-0 2-5 2 9 11 1 0 1 1 6 10 Larry Hughes, SG 39 6-15 1-4 5-6 0 4 4 2 2 0 4 5 18 Eric Snow, PG 25 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 6 0 0 1 3 0 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Damon Jones, PG 24 1-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 Donyell Marshall, F 18 3-6 2-3 0-2 0 3 3 0 1 1 0 2 8 Anderson Varejao, FC 19 1-2 0-0 1-2 1 4 5 2 0 1 2 3 3 David Wesley, SG 14 1-3 0-0 1-1 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 3 Scot Pollard, C 2 0-2 0-0 0-0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 Sasha Pavlovic, GF 1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Shannon Brown, G DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 33-74 4-9 18-30 8 41 49 16 6 5 11 29 88 44.6% 44.4% 60.0% Team TO (pts off): 12 (7) SAN ANTONIO SPURS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Bruce Bowen, SF 38 1-5 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 3 1 0 0 2 2 Tim Duncan, FC 39 8-14 0-0 9-19 1 11 12 5 0 1 5 3 25 Fabricio Oberto, C 19 2-2 0-0 0-0 2 4 6 0 0 0 0 4 4 Manu Ginobili, SG 31 5-11 3-7 1-3 0 4 4 1 0 1 3 3 14 Tony Parker, PG 35 8-16 0-0 5-8 0 5 5 5 0 0 3 0 21 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Michael Finley, GF 19 1-7 1-3 1-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 4 Francisco Elson, C 15 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 4 4 Beno Udrih, PG 13 2-7 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 5 Robert Horry, PF 20 0-4 0-3 0-0 2 6 8 0 0 0 1 5 0 Brent Barry, G 12 0-0 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 2 2 Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION Matt Bonner, FC DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 29-69 5-15 18-34 5 35 40 16 2 2 12 24 81 42.0% 33.3% 52.9% Team TO (pts off): 13 (17)
Code:NBA Scoreboard - January 2, 2007 SACLE7882 Final LACORL8691 Final GSNOK9789 Final PHOCHI9796 Final SEADAL88112 Final PHIDEN10897 Final NYSAC100112 Final San Antonio (23-9)Cleveland (18-12)78 82 1 2 3 4 T San Antonio 21 19 10 28 78 Cleveland 21 12 11 38 82 Final RecapShot ChartPlay-by-PlayBox Score SAN ANTONIO SPURS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Bruce Bowen, SF 33 0-6 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 4 0 Robert Horry, PF 24 2-5 1-2 0-0 2 5 7 1 1 0 0 2 5 Tim Duncan, FC 37 6-15 0-0 6-8 2 13 15 2 0 2 4 2 18 Manu Ginobili, SG 29 1-8 0-5 4-5 0 6 6 3 0 1 3 3 6 Tony Parker, PG 36 11-18 0-1 4-4 1 2 3 3 2 1 6 2 26 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Matt Bonner, FC 24 2-4 2-3 2-2 1 2 3 0 1 0 0 4 8 Brent Barry, G 24 1-4 1-3 1-1 0 3 3 3 1 0 2 4 4 Beno Udrih, PG 14 1-3 0-1 0-0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 2 2 Fabricio Oberto, C 11 2-7 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 0 0 0 0 1 4 Michael Finley, GF 8 2-3 1-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 2 5 Eric Williams, GF DNP COACH'S DECISION Jacque Vaughn, PG DNP COACH'S DECISION TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 28-73 5-19 17-20 9 36 45 14 8 4 17 26 78 38.4% 26.3% 85.0% Team TO (pts off): 18 (19) CLEVELAND CAVALIERS STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS LeBron James, SF 40 7-17 0-1 5-11 0 5 5 5 2 0 3 1 19 Drew Gooden, PF 23 4-8 0-0 2-2 1 3 4 0 1 0 1 2 10 Zydrunas Ilgauskas, C 29 4-13 0-0 0-0 5 8 13 0 0 3 2 3 8 Larry Hughes, SG 36 6-12 4-6 2-4 1 4 5 5 3 0 4 3 18 Eric Snow, PG 33 0-3 0-0 1-2 0 4 4 3 4 0 1 0 1 BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS Anderson Varejao, FC 26 2-5 0-0 4-4 4 3 7 1 2 0 0 5 8 Damon Jones, PG 21 2-5 1-3 6-9 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 11 Daniel Gibson, G 5 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 Donyell Marshall, F 17 1-8 1-6 0-0 0 5 5 0 0 3 2 3 3 Sasha Pavlovic, GF 8 0-3 0-1 1-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS 27-75 7-18 21-34 11 33 44 16 12 8 14 17 82 36.0% 38.9% 61.8% Team TO (pts off): 14 (14)
Yeah we're really kicking LeBron's ass...he's only putting up about 35 a game and 8 board and 5 or so assists against us....
And to make matters worse, they have another SF that's been a royal for us to stop in Donyel Marshall..
I don't see why people are laughing at the Cavs...they were built by Spurs. They play our D...and they have a SuperStar who can score, rebound or pass dominantly that we cannot come close to guarding...who handles the ball a lot.
Cavs are dangerous team for the Spurs, it's a bad matchup for us just like the Warriors were for Dallas...we won't be sweeping them if we end up playing them.
Yeah. The 5 game Finals will be pretty boring, though.
I get the logic...except the Cavs aren't coached by D'antoni...
They're coached Mike Brown...they do play D, and that's sets them apart from the Suns in 05. In 05 we screwed up the Suns by running with them and playing transition D...
I'd take playing the Suns again, over attempting to matchup with the Cavs with no SF on our roster.
I just hope ducks is right about LeBron being a choker...but I don't think he is...he's too calm. I think he's going to turn out to be clutch.
Cleveland is a legitimate tough match-up for the Spurs.
Forgetting that we have no one who can matchup against LBJ, Ilgauskas is the kind of center who can give Duncan problems (although Oberto and even Elson should be of use here). Hughes lit them up in the last two games. Varejao, Gooden, and Marshall have more active legs than the Spurs frontline and could cause problems. And like you said, they understand the Spurs system.
Still can't see them winning the series, though.
I get the logic...except the Cavs aren't coached by D'antoni...
They're coached Mike Brown...they do play D, and that's sets them apart from the Suns in 05. In 05 we screwed up the Suns by running with them and playing transition D...
I'd take playing the Suns again, over attempting to matchup with the Cavs with no SF on our roster.
Very true. I do like the Spurs chances in playoff basketball though. It would not be easy but I think its just a different game and the Spurs seem to excel at it.
I don't care who they play as long as SA gets another chance at a le!
Everybody pimpin the cavs as a nightmare matchup for us needs to re watch game 4 of the 05 finals.
The Cavs would get smoked by the Spurs...
Remember? The 36 point beatdown the pistons administered to us.
Seconded....
I thought we got our asses kicked in game 4 of the 05 finals...
And what is your point?
We matched up a of a lot better with the Pistons than the Cavs.
I am not dissing the Pistons who were tough as ...but they didn't give us matchup issues, we had an answer for anything they could throw at us...
We have no answer for LeBron...none.
If we do end up meeting the Cavs in the finals...win or lose, SF will be our priority in the offseason.
We don't believe you, you need more people
you better hope and pray greg oden doesnt turn out to be another sam bowie, bro.
I do not fear the cavs as much as the pistons for 3 reasons.
1. This is their first finals. Natural fear.
2. Inability to finish games on the road.
3.The defense is not near as good as the Pistons.
Do NOT let this so far subpar performance by the Pistons this series fool you. They CAN turn it on. They seem to turn it on in the finals as well. Cleveland has played near their best...detroit is not even close to playing their best.
I wish I was as confident about it as you guys...Donyell Marshall has beaten us all by himself before...on a bad team, by exploiting our undersized SF issues. He's the damn back up here...and if they decide to stick him at PF alongside LeBRon...we are going to have the mother of all mismatches on our hands...
Donyell Marshall was pretty good in like 95 on uconn
This whole thread is moot anyway. It's not like the cavs are going to beat Detroit.
Those are all good points.....
But LeBron has absolutely no reason to lack confidence against us...
They've also got a bevy of pretty experienced vets like Donyell Marshall and Eric Snow.
And I am not discounting the Pistons...but the matchups don't scare me as much...and the Pistons have a huge handicap that goes by the name of Flip.
The Cavs are two wide-open shots from having swept the Pistons.
I still think Detroit will win it, but they better start taking care of bidness.
(And the Spurs still have to finish theirs.)
I'm pretty sure if it came down to it the spurs would hit em with the 12 guage bucket, chicken nugget
Donyell Marshall completely destroyed us in a game in Toronto like 2 years ago...in fact it wouldn't surprise me if that's why the Cavs signed him. He is a tough matchup with no SF.
They signed him to play against the spurs? you kiddin me? outta here
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