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    No way do the Lakers trade him to another western conference team.
    Probably not but there seems to be bad blood here and i bet the Lakers play hardball and make sure they get so much back for Kobe. They did not get enough back for Shaq and Kobe is still young and so many see him as the best player in the NBA. The Lakers should be able to get huge value for him if they really are serious.

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    KG for Kobe. Afterall Lakers were lusting for KG.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I love the Kobe hate. None of you have ever spent one minute in the locker room with him or around him but you all know enough of him to hate him and call him a locker room cancer.

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    I'd like to see the Lakers say the with you we are not trading you. What can Kobe do? He can't just refuse to play he would be in breach of contract, who the cares if he is unhappy. they are paying him what 20 mil a season, suck it up and play.

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    He's ready to alienate the second largest media market in the nation, and a big fan base which adores him. Crazy. I understand him sort of laying down some demands, but demanding a trade is pretty harsh. Sounds too rash to me.

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    I believe kobe
    shaq is backing him
    phil told kobe what happened in 2004
    kobe is not the reason they have problems
    lakers did to kobe what bird did to oneal
    but kobe has the balls to do something about it

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    lakers told him they would content for a le
    he had boozer,barron ing davis and artest wanting him to play there
    then told phil we have long term plan you cost to much good riddance
    barron said he would take a paycut to play there
    barron davis on the lakers instead of parker
    might have got by the suns

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    lakers told him they would content for a le
    he had boozer,barron ing davis and artest wanting him to play there
    then told phil we have long term plan you cost to much good riddance
    barron said he would take a paycut to play there
    barron davis on the lakers instead of parker
    might have got by the suns
    Man, Kobe's put up with a lot of from the media and the team in general. I think this was the final straw.

    Manu + Tony for Kobe?

    Watch - this is how you piss off Spurstalk.

    I'd trade Manu for Kobe in a heartbeat. Not sure if I'd give up Tony and Manu, but maybe.

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    I'd like to see the Lakers say the with you we are not trading you. What can Kobe do? He can't just refuse to play he would be in breach of contract, who the cares if he is unhappy. they are paying him what 20 mil a season, suck it up and play.
    yes he can
    he can also miss shots
    he can treat lakers like they treat him
    BUSS he lied to kobe so kobe would sign and make money

    WHO will want to go to the lakers now that their owner can not be trusted?

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    I agree that the Lakers won't want to trade to a West team. Unfortunately for them the only owners crazy enough to think about it are in the West...with Sarver and Cuban out of the picture, who else would blow their team up to get Kobe?

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    Man, Kobe's put up with a lot of from the media and the team in general. I think this was the final straw.

    Manu + Tony for Kobe?

    Watch - this is how you piss off Spurstalk.

    I'd trade Manu for Kobe in a heartbeat. Not sure if I'd give up Tony and Manu, but maybe.
    maybe include tp if they can move up and get law


    kobe's value has dropped some since he demanded out
    trade manu and butler throw in scola

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    I agree that the Lakers won't want to trade to a West team. Unfortunately for them the only owners crazy enough to think about it are in the West...with Sarver and Cuban out of the picture, who else would blow their team up to get Kobe?

    cuban and starver have already said no?
    is starver nuts?

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    I'd trade Manu for Kobe in a heartbeat.
    Duh!

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    cuban and starver have already said no?
    is starver nuts?
    Ducks, read it again. Lakers won't want to trade with anyone in the West, much less a team in the same division.

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    I agree that the Lakers won't want to trade to a West team. Unfortunately for them the only owners crazy enough to think about it are in the West...with Sarver and Cuban out of the picture, who else would blow their team up to get Kobe?
    Over half the NBA.

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    These same fans are always on guys like KG, AI, etc. for staying on a losing team. Kobe is in his prime right now and wasting it playing on a team with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown as his starters....that's not going to cut it.

    Lakers and Laker fans are used to the team winning...being outsted in the 1st round 3 years in a row is not the level they should be at....even if Shaq left what did we get for him? Essentially a hurt ODOM? Is that a fair trade? Shaq for Odom what was the front office thinking?

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    I love the Kobe hate. None of you have ever spent one minute in the locker room with him or around him but you all know enough of him to hate him and call him a locker room cancer.
    Do you like “Gladiator Movies” Manny?

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    Over half the NBA.
    I disagree. Most teams would have to give up their best two players to match salary and would be right back in the situation LA is in right now...one superstar surrounded by slugs.

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    Man, Kobe's put up with a lot of from the media and the team in general. I think this was the final straw.

    Manu + Tony for Kobe?

    Watch - this is how you piss off Spurstalk.

    I'd trade Manu for Kobe in a heartbeat. Not sure if I'd give up Tony and Manu, but maybe.

    Be a good poll question.


    It won't happen.


    If it were possible, I would consider it.



    Spurs probably win the le again this year.
    So, it is hard to change something that is working.
    Getting a good point guard would become a necessity.


    I suppose the reality isn't as good as the illusion:

    Kobe is an unstoppable perimeter player who can get to the rim, create plays for others and is an incredible shooter, especially in the fourth quarter.


    Trying to defend Tim and Kobe on the same team would be a nightmare.

    Inside and Outside.

    Both are great defenders. Kobe isn't selfish imo.


    Anybody who can't see the advantages of having Kobe and Tim on the same team at this point in their careers (ie before they are too old to dominate) is blinded by hate for Kobe.

    Kobe is more efficient than AI, a better shooter than AI, less of a ballhog than AI.

    He is the ultimate closer. If Manu is a great closer, Kobe is better.

    Kobe is a great free throw shooter.

    What could Kobe do now, in his prime, when teams have to concentrate so much on Tim Duncan?


    I guess I probably agree that you don't mess with this team since it is so successful. However, the idea has a lot more merit than people here are giving credit. And the overwhelming probability is that with Kobe and Tim on this team, the Spurs win more championships.
    Last edited by Mavs<Spurs; 05-30-2007 at 02:14 PM.

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    Ummm ... The Spurs are in the playoffs. Who gives a damn about Kobe.

    There's multi Kobe threads in the NBA forum, if you want to talk about him.

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    yes he can
    he can also miss shots
    he can treat lakers like they treat him
    BUSS he lied to kobe so kobe would sign and make money

    WHO will want to go to the lakers now that their owner can not be trusted?
    NO way if you know anything about Kobe his EGO is so big he will never lay down. The guy is compe ive like Jordan. His status as a great player means everything to him. I am sure they will trade him but if they didn't, he won't pull a Vince Carter he will play all out because he does not know any other way.

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    lakers would not want to trade him to the same divsion I agree
    east sucks to bad
    knicks and bulls could work

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    Lakers and Laker fans are used to the team winning...being outsted in the 1st round 3 years in a row is not the level they should be at....even if Shaq left what did we get for him? Essentially a hurt ODOM? Is that a fair trade? Shaq for Odom what was the front office thinking?

    I thought it was obvious...

    Laker FO doesn't care about Championships. They are rebuilding. Why do you think the FO leaked this story in the first place?

    To get Kobe unhinged, and demand a trade. Next, they fire Jackson, and rebuild.

    It's not about getting equal value, it's about cutting costs.


    PS Am I the only one pissed that once again Kobe steals the spotlight?

    Hopefully, tomorrow, Spurs will be heading to the Finals for the 4th time in 9 years. But all the news will be about Kobe demanding a trade!

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    I am glad Kobe is speaking. He doesnt deserve this crap. Smush was his starting pg! lmfaoo! Call out the front office and force them to do something. This is what we need!

    Kobe wants to win, I'll give him credit for that. As much as I don't always agree with Kobe, I do respect him as a player and compe or.

    Now Laker fans know how it was for DRob all those years with Avery as starting PG. , I would actually put Smush above Avery in terms of overall talent. There is alot of similarity between overall talent of the Lakers right now, and the Spurs back before they won a le. Unfortunately, DRob didn't get the free pass like big market superstars get from the media....it was ALWAYS his fault.


    Beno for Kobe, lets work a deal We will take him off your hands LA.

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    Bonds and Kobe should form a club
    If Kobe did go to Dallas, could you imagine having TO and Kobe in the same city?? Not enough billboards.
    Last edited by sa_butta; 05-30-2007 at 01:01 PM.

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