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    People make is sound like Lebron was having his way with Bowen in the two regular season games this year, and the fact is that it simply was not true.

    In the first game this season (Nov 3), Lebron had a very good game in which he scored 35 points on 14-26 shooting, got 10 rebounds, and 4 assists. While it is true that Lebron rarely gets that many rebounds (he got more than 10 rebounds only 4 times out of the 78 games, and exactly 10 rebounds in 8 out of the 78), he has had more than 4 assists in the season 60 times. His scoring was great, in fact, there he didn’t get as many as 35 points in 64 games in the other season, and he shot a good percentage, where he shot better in this game than 59 other games. This game was quite a bit above par, even for James.

    However, in the next game, James had 19 points on 7-17 shooting, had 3 turnovers, got 5 rebounds and had 5 assists. Throughout the season, he scored less in only 11 games, had fewer turnovers in 27 games, shot better in 55 games, got more rebounds in 51 games, had more assists in 45 games. In other word, this game was definitely below par for James.

    The two games essentially cancel each other out, and two games is WAY too small a sample size to draw any definitive conclusions. Fact is basketball games changes game to game, regardless of who you play. 2 games ago I was hearing how the Pistons are owning James with their defense from hacks such as Chris Sheridan, and today, I am hearing how James is destroying the Pistons and is the next Jordan from the same hack. Players get hot, and when they do, there is nothing anybody can do. Sleepy Floyd once scored 29 points in a playoff quarter against the Lakers, would I say that he owned Cooper because of that?

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    Lebron is going to have to play defense on the other side....something he hasn't had to do since Prince rarely gets any play calls and is shooting like 20% in the series...

    that should tire him out a bit more at the other end...

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    Lebron is going to have to play defense on the other side....something he hasn't had to do since Prince rarely gets any play calls and is shooting like 20% in the series...

    that should tire him out a bit more at the other end...

    Who will Lebron guard?

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    one game does not exactly prove that lebron now has a jumpshot. regardless, i'd rather him shooting jumpers all day than a repeat of the dallas series last year - a layup line (which is the route the pistons stupidly chose yesterday). the problem is, popovich won't play zone.

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    Who will Lebron guard?


    he will guard Bowen, they don't want him wasting his energy guarding someone like Manu

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    Do the same thing we did to Kobe when we beat LA - you let him get his and shut everyone else on the team down. Let James score 40 a game for all I care, then the front office in NY will be happy because Lebron's a star, he has some highlight dunks, and meanwhile we win the games and the le.

    Where teams get into trouble is that they let Lebron set up his teammates and get them going, and it's game over. You've gotta lock down the other guys and let LJ get his.

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    Oh my gawd, it's all over. We surrender. Why bother playing the games, we'll just bow before LeBron and mail him the trophy, even if he has yet to clinch the ECF.

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    Look, he had a game for the ages. He's now a clutch player. And he stepped into legends territory.

    But one game does not make a series. Have you guys forgotten the pathetic Cavs offense that was on display for 4-and-a-half games? The third quarters where they would come out and brick everything in sight and score under 10 points. That team has zero ball movement on offense, and streaky outside shooters.

    And to people who say Mike Brown is the coach who can outwit Pop, you've gotta be kidding me. Mike Brown did everything in his power to poop on LeBron's coming out party, with the mismanaged timeouts and crappy plays. He has exactly two plays:
    1. Cavs tozz in the ball to Z at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters and watch him try and move those leaden feet. It's only because Z is being defended by an even slower Webber that he pulls off those slow, sweeping hooks
    2. LeBron iso on the top of the key.

    That's Mike Brown's playbook for you. Yesterday e took his last timeout when he didnt need to, the result of which was a LeBron iso and an airball from 21 feet.

    The Cavs' real advantages are rebounding and defense. If the Spurs can keep up what they did on the boards vs Utah and run the sweet passing game they got going vs the Jazz, the Cavs are toast.

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    Everyone is counting out the Pistons now. That's the way they like it though

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    Use Bowen as a help defender on LeBron. His man should be Hughes or Gibson. Give Bron the 3, and if he even looks to penetrate, double.

    Career Playoff 3 Pt% .321

    Lebron is not ready for this stage....

    He will feel the weight of the world and dirk it.

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    hughes on manu and snow on parker....i dont see any HUGE mismatches for the spurs except timmy ( but hes a mismatch for anyone)

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    Bowen is going to be fully rested and Lebron is going to be tired. Keep that in mind.

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    As AMAZING as Lebron's performance was last night, I don't fear the Cavs at all in a 7-game series. We can let Lebron get 40 and just shut every one else down. Remember when we beat Phoenix a few years ago like that? Amare got his 40 per game, but we won anyway.

    Plus, the Pistons played D like pussies last night. No one challenged Lebron's drives (except for Rasheed every once in a while). Tayshaun looked like a little scared every time Lebron drove.

    Believe me, that is not going to be the case when (if) the Cavs face Tim Duncan and the Spurs. I think even Elson would challenge more than the Pistons did last night.

    The absence of Big Ben Wallace is painfully apparent.

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    Bowen is going to be fully rested and Lebron is going to be tired. Keep that in mind.



    he's 22, and Bowen 34 something



    unless this series goes 7 and Cavs only get a day off, fatigue won't matter for Lebron

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    james will get his ass wipped

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    I killed a mosquito on my ceiling earlier today, and at this very moment, I have hideous gas escaping from my anus.

    Either one of these facts is more intriguing than what will happen with Lebron in the finals.

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    Execute well offensively and shut his sidekicks off. If nothing helps, send James White in.

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    Doesn't matter... a one man team is not going to beat us. They have no answer for Duncan, Tony, or Manu.
    That's it in a nuts ; no need to read further. As amazing a player as he might be, he's one man.

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    One man teams don't win championships. I'm just hoping Detroit can pull their heads out of their asses so I can at least watch a compe ive finals. I don't buy into all that Lebron hype, i'd rather watch 2 of the best defensive teams go at it or just not watch at all.

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    Well I only read the first half of the first page, and all I can say is Spurs Dynasty 21 is a (as Timmy would say) re . First of all, the ECF aint even over, the Cavs aint one yet! Second, if CLE wins, Lebron wont need to be "doubled every time he touches the ball." Bowen has been around a long time and is the best Defender in the L. I will be very comfortable and confident with him guarding King James, one on one, the whole game, every game. Bowen is the man!

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    The next time Bowen comes anywhere near shutting LeBron down will be the first. LeBron is just too big for Bruce...and he's not a slow stiff that Bruce can pester, LeBron just moves him out of the way.

    He's a tougher guard than Kobe, he's bigger, stronger, probably faster, and definitely a better decision and passer with the ball. And he makes a of a lot more of his shots than Kobe.


    You can't stop a tank with a flyswatter.

    LeBron is 2 inches taller and 20lbs heavier than Kobe...

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    The next time Bowen comes anywhere near shutting LeBron down will be the first. LeBron is just too big for Bruce...and he's not a slow stiff that Bruce can pester, LeBron just moves him out of the way.

    He's a tougher guard than Kobe, he's bigger, stronger, probably faster, and definitely a better decision and passer with the ball. And he makes a of a lot more of his shots than Kobe.


    You can't stop a tank with a flyswatter.

    LeBron is 2 inches taller and 20lbs heavier than Kobe...
    Sorry but james is not faster and quicker than Kobe. You are right that James is a better passer and rebounder but Bryant is one of the better perimeter defenders in the league and James is middling on defense.

    Another thing to think about is James has yet to have to deal with a shot blocker of Duncans caliber these playoffs. NJ and Washington pretty much have no shotblocker and Detroit only has Rasheed who is middling.

    You completely ignore the entire concept of help defense the Spurs play. All Bowen or any Spurs defender needs to do is play within the system and keep in front of him as best as possible and overplay to the middle forcing him to the baseline to allow the bigs to help on penetration.

    You make it seem as if its just going to be Bowen getting posted up or beat on dribble penetration one on one over and over again.

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    Sorry but james is not faster and quicker than Kobe. You are right that James is a better passer and rebounder but Bryant is one of the better perimeter defenders in the league and James is middling on defense.
    Who he's going to have to guard? Bruce?


    Another thing to think about is James has yet to have to deal with a shot blocker of Duncans caliber these playoffs. NJ and Washington pretty much have no shotblocker and Detroit only has Rasheed who is middling.
    Whatever makes you feel better...




    You completely ignore the entire concept of help defense the Spurs play. All Bowen or any Spurs defender needs to do is play within the system and keep in front of him as best as possible and overplay to the middle forcing him to the baseline to allow the bigs to help on penetration.

    You make it seem as if its just going to be Bowen getting posted up or beat on dribble penetration one on one over and over again.

    Um...Bowen will get driven on, blown by, posted up, rebounded over...



    You make it sound like this dude is ing scrub...

    His first game against us as a rookie he went for 35 points and like 8 rebounds and 8 assists...

    He's had games of 10 boards, 10 assists, and those are some of his crappier games against us.


    He's torn us up...and this was before he even ing knew what he was doing.


    I doubt Pop even tries to guard LeBron with Bruce extensively...

    He's going to want to force LeBron work on D...

    It's going to be Finley that guards him the most IMO...I have a feeling Pop might try Elson on him in spot minutes.

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    And I argue that LeBron is slower than Kobe...he's pretty damn fast.


    Kobe is a better pure scorer IMO and probably a better defender(when he wants to be). But I don't think he's as good as LeBron in any other facet of the game. LeBron sets his teamates better too...he's got a point guards mentality.



    We're going to lose the matchup with LeBron...the Spurs will have to win this series without shutting him down...but the Cavs do play D, not as good as the Spurs, but I think better than any other team we have faced in the post season.

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    It's funny but you know what might win this series for us?

    LMAO FT shooting...the Cavs are a baaaaad FT shooting team.

    Defensively they were the 5th best defensive team in the NBA in the regular season...

    They're the best defensive team in the post season...then again, they didn't have to play the Suns, Jazz and Nuggets....all either high scoring or efficient offensive teams.

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