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U mad Pistons fans?
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"Pistons' Demise?"
Another trip to the conference finals, another season with the #1 seed....yes, it's disappointing, but "Pistons' Demise"? Get yer head out yer ass, Brad.
U mad Pistons fans?
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Putting this together really comes in handy sometimes:
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You should find a picture of Prince ducking for cover as Lebron comes flying in for the dunk.
This is the final basket in overtime FTW:
Have you not read the national media's take on the Pistons the last couple of days? It's not like I'm the only person claiming that the Piston's window is closed. Detroit just got outplayed by the Cavs for about 90% of the series. How are the Pistons going to get any better any time soon? They're going to have to overpay just to keep Billups.
Melo was no risk and could have played right away. Why gamble on a project at the #2 spot when you just made it to the conference finals? So what if you already have a SF? When you're already good you pick the guy who is already the best player available and you play him right away.
Detroit went out and got Rasheed during Darko's rookie year! It didn't even take them a year to figure out that Darko wasn't going to work out as expected. And if they would have done the sane thing and picked Melo, they could have moved Prince in a deal for Rasheed and had 5 All-Stars starting.
You guys aren't being hard enough on Dumars for this. Plenty of people were saying that the Pistons should pick Anthony in 2003 because he was a sure thing and the Pistons were already very good. Dumars made some great moves to build the team, but this was a major up.
If the Spurs could have gotten Rasheed Wallace to play alongside Tim Duncan for a pile of bricks like Detroit did, I think they would have done the deal as well. We traded unneeded bench players for a top 10 power forward (when he wants to be).
Exactly the point. Go for the best talent you can find. It's not like it was Melo then Darko right next to him talent wise in the draft. Melo had already proven he had the talent, where Darko just had the potential. At the very least they could have traded him for someone else if he didn't work out because they were so stacked at the SF position.
Just like in the summer of '03 when the Spurs went after Kidd even though we had Parker on the rise. You go for the best talent out there.
They didn´t need a SG or SF at the time,and still dont need them.They´ve got great players on those positions(Prince and Hamilton)That´s why they passed on them and picked Milicic.to be Honest Milicic is a jek of a player who needs more playing time.Milicic not playing at all and leaving Detroit was L.Brown fault,Not Dumars.
Last edited by ArgSpursFan; 06-05-2007 at 08:42 AM.
Yeah what if suck....no reason to talk about it even now.
Flip's two season's have been two dissapointing playoff runs.
Flip's teams, whatever city that may be, could go undefeated in the reg. season and i'd bet the farm against them in the postseason.
Not to mention they got bailed out this year by picking up Webber.
I think Flip just dirks in the playoffs. He's not necessarily a bad coach, but when the playoffs roll around, it's like he gets so scared of losing he plays his starters until their legs fall off. I mean, he keeps at least one or two of his starters in the game with a 20 point lead!
the Webber signing was fool's gold. He was great in the first month or so of the regular season, then the first round of the playoffs. After that, he was the invisible starter.
I've read the national media's take in the days immediately after the ECF upset. I also read the national media's take last summer on the dawning DWAYNE WADE ERA!! And their take this spring on the unstoppable force out of Dallas. So I don't feel too terribly stressed about the national media's current take on the Pistons.
Yah. And if we had Melo at $16mil/year instead of Tayshaun, we'd have nowhere to go but up? (and probly be working on a back-to-back this June instead of cleaning bluegills?)How are the Pistons going to get any better any time soon? They're going to have to overpay just to keep Billups.
Why gamble on a kid fresh out of high school? LeBron was a bigger risk than Carmelo. He was a no-brainer #1 because he had so much more potential than Melo, but he still could have been the next Kwame Brown. And if you're already at the top of your conference, isn't that the time to gamble on a project for the future rather than go for a minor upgrade to one of the pieces that got you where you are?Melo was no risk and could have played right away. Why gamble on a project at the #2 spot when you just made it to the conference finals?
I don't think anybody expected him to be an NBA center at the age of 18. He had a lot of potential which didn't pan out. Definitely a waste of a pick, but the idea that our future today would be so much brighter if we only had Carmelo is pretty damn silly.Detroit went out and got Rasheed during Darko's rookie year! It didn't even take them a year to figure out that Darko wasn't going to work out as expected.
Larry Brown loves the big man, he drafted Dwayne Schintzius didn't he
If you had Melo and his nearly 30 ppg instead of Tayshaun you'd already be up. And here are their salaries:
06-07) Prince - 7.8M Melo - 4.7M
07-08) 8.7 12.5
08-09) 9.5 13.8
09-10) 10.3 15.1
10-11) 11.1 16.4
And Melo has a player option for 11-12 for 17.7M So if the Pistons had Melo instead of Tayshaun, the difference in salaries would mean that you most likely wouldn't have signed Nazr to a 5 year contract averaging 6M per year; what a bonus!
Lebron was the 5th can't miss #1 pick of the lottery era, after Ewing, Robinson, Shaq and Duncan. And just like those 4 players, there was nothing at risk with Lebron.Why gamble on a kid fresh out of high school? LeBron was a bigger risk than Carmelo. He was a no-brainer #1 because he had so much more potential than Melo, but he still could have been the next Kwame Brown.
No. If you just won a le, then maybe. But when you just lost in the conference finals, that is the perfect time to to go for a guaranteed, immediate upgrade. And Melo is a major upgrade over Prince.And if you're already at the top of your conference, isn't that the time to gamble on a project for the future rather than go for a minor upgrade to one of the pieces that got you where you are?
Which is exactly why you don't pick him when you're in Detroit's position at the time and you take the guaranteed upgrade and almost certain future all-star.I don't think anybody expected him to be an NBA center at the age of 18.
Your future wouldn't be brighter with one of the best scorers in the league who just turned 23? Of course it would be.Definitely a waste of a pick, but the idea that our future today would be so much brighter if we only had Carmelo is pretty damn silly.
The Spurs made a mistake that year as well by passing on Josh Howard. You could argue that that cost us the le last year, if for no other reason then Dallas wouldn't have had their 2nd best player. It's just not as obvious because every team passed on Howard but Dallas.
This is for all the Prince haters, you've seen it before but just to refresh your memory---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JosJ2FM7Og
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