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    How do you figure? By number of flagrants, number of disqualifications, number of ejections, number of fines, or number of complaints by losing teams and their pussy fans?

    Some of those complaints seem to come even before the series starts. Sounds like Bowen is in your head.
    Bowen is crafty enough to know how to get his cheap shots in, while making it look "innocent" enough that the league can't suspend him on the basis of each individual incident.

    The body of work all together makes it clear what kind of player he is.

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    Nope, he is just by far the dirtiest.
    Oh...so you didn't say this.

    That's because every other player in the NBA isn't a dirty player, just Bruce Bowen.

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    Good that we've got something to talk about.

    Damn I will miss those diss ...

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    Wait till you see what they try to do once the Cavs go up 2-0. Someone seriously will try to take out LeBron. And they're all in on it. Lunar Face over there on the sideline will send in one of his goons to do it.
    Um...that ain't happening. Maybe if the Suns were playing, in which they would be swept by the Cavs, but not our Spurs

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    How do you figure? By number of flagrants, number of disqualifications, number of ejections, number of fines, or number of complaints by losing teams and their pussy fans?

    Some of those complaints seem to come even before the series starts. Sounds like Bowen is in your head.
    Bowen has been protected by the league so it wouldn't be according to the number of flagrants or anything else, Bruce never gets called on anything. I am just talking about the world of reality, because only a blind man could deny that some of the things Bruce Bowen has done warrant some significant suspensions. There are things that you just don't do in organized sports, and one of them is hit your opponent with a low blow or intentionally try to injure your opponent. I've seen UFC fighters with more integrity than this cancer to the sport.

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    Bowen has been protected by the league
    Proof please.

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    Bowen is crafty enough to know how to get his cheap shots in, while making it look "innocent" enough that the league can't suspend him on the basis of each individual incident.

    The body of work all together makes it clear what kind of player he is.
    You are such a whiney son of a , it's hilarious. Good luck even making the playoffs next year with Oden and Durant in the West.

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    He's not protected by the league, he uses their rules ambiguities to his advantage.

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    You are such a whiney son of a , it's hilarious. Good luck even making the playoffs next year with Oden and Durant in the West.

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    We'll not only make the playoffs, we'll send the Spurs home for good on the way to the championship.

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    He's not protected by the league, he uses their rules ambiguities to his advantage.
    Oh yeah, that's so ethical.

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    Bowen has been protected by the league so it wouldn't be according to the number of flagrants or anything else, Bruce never gets called on anything. I am just talking about the world of reality, because only a blind man could deny that some of the things Bruce Bowen has done warrant some significant suspensions. There are things that you just don't do in organized sports, and one of them is hit your opponent with a low blow or intentionally try to injure your opponent. I've seen UFC fighters with more integrity than this cancer to the sport.
    If Bowen CONSISTENTLY did such terrible things game after game, the refs would get him for it. WHAT REASON DO THEY HAVE TO PROTECT BOWEN? The refs review EACH and EVERY call after a game.

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    He's not protected by the league, he uses their rules ambiguities to his advantage.
    That I would agree to. Its not illegal and players all over the league do it.

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    We'll not only make the playoffs, we'll send the Spurs home for good on the way to the championship.


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    Oh yeah, that's so ethical.


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    Bowen has been protected by the league so it wouldn't be according to the number of flagrants or anything else, Bruce never gets called on anything. I am just talking about the world of reality, because only a blind man could deny that some of the things Bruce Bowen has done warrant some significant suspensions. There are things that you just don't do in organized sports, and one of them is hit your opponent with a low blow or intentionally try to injure your opponent. I've seen UFC fighters with more integrity than this cancer to the sport.
    The league has no reason to suspend him. They have no reason to fine him. They have no reason to even give him a phone call. The world of reality is that he doesn't foul out of games, he doesn't commit flagrants, he doesn't get fined, and he doesn't get suspended. If Bowen intentionally tries to injure opponents, he's wildly unsuccessful at it.

    I know you are worried that he's going to own your little of an overrated all-star just like he owned the one in Phoenix, but you should at least let it happen before you start crying about it.

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    We'll not only make the playoffs, we'll send the Spurs home for good on the way to the championship.
    Yeah...how'd that work out?

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    As my Football coach always says, if the Refs don't call it, it's fair game.

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    So now ALL the Spurs players do it. I have seen Bowen and people have a good case for him. Horry's shot on Nash can be classified as such but I haven't seen any other plays by him this playoffs that could be argued as such. Manu is a flopper...that's not dirty..just annoying. Parker hits the ground alot but that only affects him. Duncan...he whines...again not dirty, just annoying. If you could point out dirty plays this playoffs by Oberto, Finley, Barry, Udrih, Vaughn, Bonner, Butler, Elson and the rest, that would help.
    The shot on Steve Nash by Horry was a hard foul but I can believe what he says, Horry is a good guy and has no prior record of ever doing anything like this. However, in the back of my mind after all of those things taking place earlier in the series I still know deep down that he was trying to foul Nash hard. The fact that he outweighs Nash by roughly 80 lbs and has 9 or 10 inches on him makes me understand how Steve could have gone flying.

    However, Bowen is just a dirty player and a cancer to the sport. His record speaks for itself, I don't care if you are a high school, college, or pro coach, you cannot condone that behavior. I blame Popp, and not so secretly I think the Spurs coach told Bowen specifically to go in there and try to hurt Nash and start the melee that ensued.

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    Bowen has been protected by the league so it wouldn't be according to the number of flagrants or anything else, Bruce never gets called on anything. I am just talking about the world of reality, because only a blind man could deny that some of the things Bruce Bowen has done warrant some significant suspensions. There are things that you just don't do in organized sports, and one of them is hit your opponent with a low blow or intentionally try to injure your opponent. I've seen UFC fighters with more integrity than this cancer to the sport.
    No doubt some of the things Bruce does are suspension worthy. Very few people will argue that he doesn't do some dirty things, but he isn't nearly as dirty as people think. MOST players guarded by Bowen say he's just a hard nose defender that gets the job done.

    Bowen has made an art of annoying people and still playing within the rules 99% of the time. Unfortunately, that 1% he goes out of the rules he goes WAY outside the rules.

    That crotch blow is a stupid thing to bring up though because that happens a lot in the NBA, and Nash did a really good job of selling it. Definitely dirty, but hardly rare to see in the NBA and wasn't nearly as serious as people seem to think.

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    However, Bowen is just a dirty player and a cancer to the sport. His record speaks for itself, I don't care if you are a high school, college, or pro coach, you cannot condone that behavior. I blame Popp, and not so secretly I think the Spurs coach told Bowen specifically to go in there and try to hurt Nash and start the melee that ensued.
    Ok but you were saying the whole team was dirty.

    And you actually think Pop tells Bruce to go in and hurt other players.

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    We'll not only make the playoffs, we'll send the Spurs home for good on the way to the championship.
    As much as I think you are saying this out of sour grapes, I did think Phoenix would have won the series w/ San Antonio this season if not for the dirty play of the Spurs, and I think they will definately win the West next season if they keep their team together.

    Spurs fans like to say that they beat the Suns in Game Six and that makes it all better, however the fact of the matter is they never would have won Game 5 if Stoudemire had been playing so even assuming a Game 6 win for the Spurs, that would only have evened the series at 3-3 with the Game 7 being a home game for the Suns.

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    Ok but you were saying the whole team was dirty.

    And you actually think Pop tells Bruce to go in and hurt other players.
    Not all the time, just in the playoffs when he senses things are getting away from the team.

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    Spurs fans like to say that they beat the Suns in Game Six and that makes it all better, however the fact of the matter is they never would have won Game 5 if Stoudemire had been playing so even assuming a Game 6 win for the Spurs, that would only have evened the series at 3-3 with the Game 7 being a home game for the Suns.
    That is such a stupid argument about game 5. You cannot make the claim the Suns would have won with Stoudemire playing. Personally I think Diaw was the bigger loss for the Suns, but both are irrelevant. The Spurs played down to the short handed Suns level. They would have played at a much higher level if the Suns had been at full strength, so you can't predict what would have happened.

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    Not all the time, just in the playoffs when he senses things are getting away from the team.
    I'd like a specific example of that. Name one time. Ever. Once. Just once.

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    That crotch blow is a stupid thing to bring up though because that happens a lot in the NBA, and Nash did a really good job of selling it. Definitely dirty, but hardly rare to see in the NBA and wasn't nearly as serious as people seem to think.
    The low blow was one of the worst things he has done! I honestly could care less about guys falling on his foot and spraining their ankles, thats part of the game. But to blatantly knee somebody in the balls....if somebody ever did that to me I would whup their asses on the middle of the basketball court.

    And there in lies the problem, you can't not suspend somebody for instigating an action from another player to get that player in trouble without also suspending the player who started the incident in the first place.

    I know this is a rehash, so I apologize...however, how many more years do you think Bowen will be in the league for? The sooner he is gone, the better for everybody, this guy gives the sport of basketball a bad name.

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