Who is the best at each position?-PF

[TheTruth]

PF's shouldn't be afraid to post up and back smaller players down. Dirk IS a choker.

[nsrammstein]

PF's shouldn't be afraid to post up and back smaller players down. Dirk IS a choker.

You're a ing idiot, are you asking the NBA MVP to change his game? might as well ask duncan to take more of those 15ft jumpers!

[dallaskd]

Elton Brand is definitely better than Boozer and Bosh. Personally, I'd take him over Amare as well.

Bosh is top 3, because amare is not a PF.

[TheTruth]

You're a ing idiot, are you asking the NBA MVP to change his game? might as well ask duncan to take more of those 15ft jumpers!

I'm not asking dirk to do anything. I'm just saying that i won't consider him the best PF in the league EVER, because he doesn't have the ability to post up smaller players. Dirk's play in the post is pathetic. Championships are won in the paint.

[B and P Cats]

He wasn't that great in the 2006 finals either.

Well, he was good enough to beat you! In the Finals, Riley had two or three guys on him all the time. Pretty good attention for a choke artist.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Brand is better than both of them now.

yup....less points, less rebounds, and no playoffs


wow, alot better.

[Findog]

yup....less points, less rebounds, and no playoffs


wow, alot better.

Bosh plays in the East. Clippers would've made the playoffs in the East. Boozer has a PG to play with. Brand doesn't.

[Findog]

lol! I love the Spurs to death, but you are right I can recognize other great players on other teams!

I do though have Homer glasses on when it comes to Manu!!!! He is the best

Manu is a terrific player. I wish we had somebody like him on the Mavs. He's absolutely fearless.

[SpursIndonesia]

1. Duncan
2. Nowitzki
3. Garnett
4. Stoudamire
5. Brand
6. Bosh

[Strike]

Honestly, Duncan is the best. But I think Nowitzki is fast on his heels.

Maybe if he wins something like an NBA le!

Something other than an undeserved MVP.

[freedom&justice]

Right now, just based on consistent production and ability to impact a game: Timmy.
After him, I think the best, in order are: KG, Boozer, Brand, Bosh, Dirk (if he'd post up more I'd rank him higher, but he's mostly a jumpshooter) Sheed (when he wants to be), Jermaine (when he's not injured), Odom (he has the talent, and when healthy, he is IMO that good).

[gaKNOW!blee]

Bosh plays in the East. Clippers would've made the playoffs in the East. Boozer has a PG to play with. Brand doesn't.

Even with a PG the Clips would not of been the 3 seed in the east. Nor the 4 seed in the west.

[Findog]

Even with a PG the Clips would not of been the 3 seed in the east. Nor the 4 seed in the west.

You can't base a player's entire worth on W-L record. If that's the case, there's about 10 shooting guards better than Kobe. Brand is more durable than Boozer, he doesn't have a PG to play with like Deron Williams, Jerry Sloan is a better coach than Dunleavy, and if you put the Clippers in the East, they finish 43-39 based on their winning % against the two conferences, whereas the Raptors finished 47-35. Raptors have much more talent around Bosh than the Clippers have around Brand.

[gaKNOW!blee]

You can't base a player's entire worth on W-L record. If that's the case, there's about 10 shooting guards better than Kobe. Brand is more durable than Boozer, he doesn't have a PG to play with like Deron Williams, Jerry Sloan is a better coach than Dunleavy, and if you put the Clippers in the East, they finish 43-39 based on their winning % against the two conferences, whereas the Raptors finished 47-35. Raptors have much more talent around Bosh than the Clippers have around Brand.

Clippers: 6 double figure scorers may of been 7 if Livingston didnt get hurt

Raptors: 5

[Day Day Cartier]

I Know tim duncan Do not wanna see sheed in the west..

[Findog]

Clippers: 6 double figure scorers may of been 7 if Livingston didnt get hurt

Raptors: 5

So a Spurs fan is now placing an overemphasis on offense. Sweet.

[Findog]

Right now, just based on consistent production and ability to impact a game: Timmy.
After him, I think the best, in order are: KG, Boozer, Brand, Bosh, Dirk (if he'd post up more I'd rank him higher, but he's mostly a jumpshooter) Sheed (when he wants to be), Jermaine (when he's not injured), Odom (he has the talent, and when healthy, he is IMO that good).

Dirk is #2. Ask any scout or coach. He has one All-Star injury replacement as his sidekick.

[gaKNOW!blee]

So a Spurs fan is now placing an overemphasis on offense. Sweet.

No, but your saying Brand doesnt have as much talent around him, when obviously he does.

[nsrammstein]

Right now, just based on consistent production and ability to impact a game: Timmy.
After him, I think the best, in order are: KG, Boozer, Brand, Bosh, Dirk (if he'd post up more I'd rank him higher, but he's mostly a jumpshooter) Sheed (when he wants to be), Jermaine (when he's not injured), Odom (he has the talent, and when healthy, he is IMO that good).

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[monosylab1k]

oh yeah well what was Brand doing his 7th grade year???


who cares about two years ago, quit living in the past, Boozer and Bosh are right now.

You're a ing idiot. Just because their teams made it to this year's playoffs, they're better than Brand? Even though a year ago neither of their teams made it?

So what happens if next year Toronto and Utah both miss the playoffs and the Clippers make it? Suddenly Brand jumps back ahead of them?

Offensively, Brand has a better post game than either of them, and he probably has the 2nd best post game of anybody in the league after Duncan.

Defensively, Brand is far better than Boozer, and though he's not as athletic as Bosh, he's WAY stronger.

You're seriously the most stupid asshole alive if you think that "they made the playoffs this year, therefore they are better" is some sort of logical argument. Hey! Rafter Alston made the playoffs this year and Chris Paul didn't! Therefore, Alston > Paul! ing dumbass.

[freedom&justice]

Dirk is #2. Ask any scout or coach. He has one All-Star injury replacement as his sidekick.

Typical Mav fan. I did say Dirk would be ranked higher if he'd stick his butt in the post more - y'know, like most other PFs do.

Dirk is very good, but in the playoffs, if you can't score in the post, you ain't winning. He's too skilled an athlete to just run around shooting jumpers all day. All of those guys aren't your prototypical PFs; none of them are really back to the basket types, except maybe Tim (hmmm..you think it's a coincidence that he has 4 rings?) - but they all have good post games. oh, and they play better defense.

[gaKNOW!blee]

You're a ing idiot. Just because their teams made it to this year's playoffs, they're better than Brand? Even though a year ago neither of their teams made it?

So what happens if next year Toronto and Utah both miss the playoffs and the Clippers make it? Suddenly Brand jumps back ahead of them?

Offensively, Brand has a better post game than either of them, and he probably has the 2nd best post game of anybody in the league after Duncan.

Defensively, Brand is far better than Boozer, and though he's not as athletic as Bosh, he's WAY stronger.

You're seriously the most stupid asshole alive if you think that "they made the playoffs this year, therefore they are better" is some sort of logical argument. Hey! Rafter Alston made the playoffs this year and Chris Paul didn't! Therefore, Alston > Paul! ing dumbass.

all your swearing and name calling proves your not very sure of your point.

The only thing about your Alston point is....hes not the leader of his team and isnt counted on to make sure they are like Brand is. Plus they made it last year and were supposed to be on thier way up, and they just fall back down.

what about the fact that Brand scores less and rebounds less? ever think about that one?

[Findog]

Typical Mav fan. I did say Dirk would be ranked higher if he'd stick his butt in the post more - y'know, like most other PFs do.

Dirk's not a back to the basket scorer. He has a skillset that is unique. Timmy can hit that 18 foot jumper consistently, is that what Pop should have him do all game long? We could've sorely used a low-post scorer against Golden State but that's not Dirk's game. Dampier could've dunked on Al Harrington all game long, but in case you didn't notice, he had surgery on a torn rotator cuff this week. Instead of making excuses, they didn't let on how badly he was hurt.

Dirk is very good, but in the playoffs, if you can't score in the post, you ain't winning.

So I guess us beating the ultimate half-court defensively-minded team in the playoffs last year didn't happen. Dirk's a a decent help defender, he's a lousy one on one defender. That's why we got Damp and Diop, so Dirk doesn't have to draw those defensive assignments and get in foul trouble. We could've sorely used Dampier against the Warriors, but he only played 7 mpg with a torn rotator cuff. He wasn't going to do the team any good in his physical condition. Dirk can't guard Timmy, but Timmy can't guard Dirk either. The Spurs stick Bowen on Howard and then Dirk forces Duncan to come out and guard him on the high post. Doesn't mean Timmy's not a great player, but we have a mismatch that puts Duncan in a position for which he is ill-suited. Kinda like how Damp's injury forced Avery to slide Dirk over to C, a position for which he isn't suited.

[monosylab1k]

all your swearing and name calling proves your not very sure of your point.

No all my swearing and name calling is for fun, and also to emphasize that you're a ing moron, you ing moron.

The only thing about your Alston point is....hes not the leader of his team and isnt counted on to make sure they are like Brand is. Plus they made it last year and were supposed to be on thier way up, and they just fall back down.

So why is Amare on that list then? He's definitely not the leader of the Suns. If we're talking leaders, then why is Amare listed and not Brand?

So the fact that Utah hasn't had a decent team up until this season suggests that Boozer is somehow a leader? I would argue that it proves that Boozer is NOT a leader, and that the emergence of Deron Williams as a leader is helping Boozer, and not the other way around.

The fact that Toronto's had one decent year suggests that Bosh is now a leader? What happens if Toronto has a bad year next year? Suddenly by your logic Bosh is on the same level as Brand because his team was supposed to be on their way up and they fell back down. Again, your logic is just re ed because there is nothing smart about "This guy made the playoffs this year, therefore this guy is better" when next season that team might completely tank. Brand, Bosh, and Boozer are on the EXACT SAME LEVEL as far as team success goes - they haven't got much at all. Brand's made it to the second round, so if anything, Brand has accomplished more with his team than Bosh has.

what about the fact that Brand scores less and rebounds less? ever think about that one?

oh so now it's points and rebounds? Well Kevin Garnett had more points and rebounds than Tim Duncan this season. Garnett > Duncan. Have a nice day dumb .

[monosylab1k]

Dampier could've dunked on Al Harrington all game long

That's assuming he actually catches the pass. Let's not trick ourselves into thinking that Dampier was the solution. He's not a post player in the least. Any positive impact Dampier may give us should be treated like an early Christmas gift. If we're relying on Ericka Dampier for anything, or (even worse) expecting him to contribute, then the Mavericks have a huge problem.