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Yeah, we'll never win the 07 championship with this team. Our front office sucks.[/everybody including myself]
As much as Spurs fans like to hype up the international prospects, they are just that, prospects. The Spurs' best move in the last 5 drafts was pulling a Speedy Claxton for a late first round pick. The worst was passing on a starting 3 in Howard. I guess now the responsibility for all of the Spurs' draft gaffes will be dumped on Presti.
Yeah, we'll never win the 07 championship with this team. Our front office sucks.[/everybody including myself]
Just for fun, here's the Spurs' last 5 drafts...
2006
Their 1st rounder was part of the deal with the Knicks for a year's rental of Nazr Mohammed. Knicks took Mardy Collins. Spurs could have taken Daniel Gibson or Paul Millsap.
They deal their 2nd rounder to the Bucks for the better of the Bucks' 2nd rounders in the '07 draft.
2005
1st, #28 - Ian Mahinmi
Spurs traded their 1st rounder from Phoenix to the Knicks, who turned out to be David Lee. Monta Ellis was also available.
2004
1st, #28 - Beno Udrih (selected over Varejao and Chris Duhon)
#43 Viktor Sanikidze (traded for the Spurs' 2005 2nd rounder)
#53 Romain Sato - whereabouts unknown
#58 Sergei Karaulov - Siberia or some such
2003
1st, #28 - Leandrinho Barbosa, traded to Phoenix for a future 1st round pick (2005). Barbosa was 6th Man of the Year in 2006-07. In addition the Spurs passed on Josh Howard. Also a number of solid pros in the 2nd round the Spurs missed out on.
The Spurs didn't have a 2nd round pick because they traded it for Mengke Kahn.
2002
1st #26 - John Salmons, who was traded along with Mark Bryant to the Sixers for Speedy Claxton
#56 - Luis Scola
#57 - Randy Holcomb (included in Claxton trade)
jesus, you just made reminded me how disappointing the Spurs draft has been since 1997
ENOUGH with the foreign picks!
Dont forget that the spurs also elected to pass on Carlos Boozer in parlaying John Salmons into speedy claxton
True. However, we also had the good break in the form of the Golden State Warriors. And, for whatever reason, the Spurs suddenly turned into supermen on the boards against Utah and Cleveland.
Now, maybe Elson will do what Oberto did and really pick up in his second year. But the fact is that the Spurs really need to start seeing some kind of youth infusion on the front line. So far, the best they have is a bunch of long shots.
don't forget that Sanikidze was an 18 year old 6-8 small forward that they took right before Trevor Ariza, a 19 year old 6-8 small forward.
Yeah, just look at Dusty's boy Brian Scalabrine.
Seriously, this is the best that the best team in pro basketball can do?
, may as well let spurstalk have some input.
Well Pop would have been fired 5 seasons ago. I think not.
reading his blog was boring me to sleep
You guys really shouldn't hate on ex Rockets.
Sin,
Mario and Rob
linkJonathan
How worried should the Rockets be of losing Dennis Lindsey to the Spurs? It would appear to be a better career opportunity because working in Spur's front office for a few years typically yields a GM job.
Although Morey is the Rockets GM, shouldnt Lindsey really be considered the Rocket's Co-GM since Morey doesnt have as much experience evaluating basketball skills to project a player's development?
Lastly should the bad personnel decisions made over the past decade with exception to TMac, Yao, and Battier, be attributed to Carroll Dawson and/or Lindsey?
Bryan,
Dennis is extremely well regarded around the league. There have been inquiries about him for GM jobs, but the timing was not right in the past. He would be a huge loss because Morey seems to value Dennis' talent for evaluating players. The Rockets have known for years about conclusions he reached that proved prophetic. Remember, there are probably hundreds of evaluations that teams never get to act upon. But they would know where Dennis stood on those players.
For example, Les told me once that Dennis strongly wanted the team to use the 15th pick the year they took Yao and Boki and try to package it to move up in front of Phoenix for Amare. Les believed in Eddie Griffin. Nothing might have come of it. Phoenix was willing to move up as high as necessary for Stoudemire. Yao was the only player Bryan Colangelo would have taken before Stoudemire. But it indicates Lindsey's evaluation at a time many teams doubted Stoudemire.
As far as decision-making, most decisions had been made by consensus, but during Rudy's years, he was very much in charge. It was CD's job to get it done. Since then, CD was in charge, but most things were based on evaluations made together. The thing people often ignore that until this summer, the Rockets were heavily limited by the length of contracts given out years ago. CD wanted to make sure Morey and Lindsey were not handcuffed and the organization made it a point to work past those issues.
Jonathan
Posted by: Bryan at June 16, 2007 03:17 PM
I dan't know this Dennis Lindsey, so I can't judge if it's a good move or not.
However, I like that Spurs aren't sleeping on the le and are working on the future while the parade hasn't even happened.
Maybe the Rockets screw up and let the wrong guy go. Yao and Stoudemire would've been a formidable frontcourt.
^^ Nice find. The Rockets have been one of the most active teams in the trade market over the last decade. It seems like whenever there is a big name on the block, the Rockets are always right there making an offer.
And since the Spurs will need to totally retool the team within a year or two, perhaps they see the need for a guy who knows how to wheel and deal.
If you are going to target a team to take their front office personnel, the Rockets would be pretty high on the list. They've been aggressive over the years and have done a better than average job of avoiding long term, monstrous contracts that plague most teams in the league.
I think the Spurs will be making some moves this summer. Barry's expiring contract should be utilized.
Repeat>Utilizing an expiring contract, Peter.
Nice research MB.
We didn't interview the brain test guy. We interviewed the guy that Houston stupidly pushed to the back of the GM line for brain test guy.
Seriously, this is the best that the best team in pro basketball can do?
, may as well let spurstalk have some input.
Taking an open 3 is better than ball faking, dribbling inside the arc, and passing to someone else with 2 seconds on the clock. I think Brent passing up open shots is probably beginning to wear on Pop.
Brent Barry:
Lead Spurs in:
Adj FG%
2%
3%
PPS
PPFGA
#1 in the NBA in true shooting PCT.
#3 in the NBA in 3pct.
Seriously...you guys are stupid.
You mean like his 0-5 in a 30 second span in game 2?
Hey...taking a load of shots, and missing them? Is a bad thing...it's never good. It is never, ever, ever, ever, ever, good.
The only one I fault him for was the one RIGHT after the offensive rebound, with like 20 seconds left on the shot clock.
Pop has repeatedly gone on record as saying he never faults you for missed shots, just open shots you pass up. It got Jaren Jackson benched in 99, and probably kept Brent from reclaiming his starting spot this year.
Pure Pussy, ing Gimp Ass?
No...a pussy is someone who attempts to nutride a defending champ and then pounts like a little for the entire season because he feels like he picked the wrong team(defending champs though they were), then tanks it worse than Barry has on his worst day as a Spur in the ultimate games of his career.
Hey, I am all for Findog being a sympathetic figure and emotional rallying point for this team...
But you are outta you ing MPD skull if you trust this sucker to carry the load after what he just pulled in the finals.
Besides...age might finally be catching up to him, that might be what happened in the finals, and if he can't score, he doesn't need to be on the court.
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