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I'll keep that in mind next season as I read endless "Trade Manu!" and "Parker sux" and "Duncan is over the hill" threads in the Spurs forum like I read all this season.
Damp, Dirk, Stack, Jet. All the guys with the yips are over 30. Youth is a lame excuse. They should probably hope Pop decides to tinker with the roster in the middle of the playoffs again next year. In my opinion it's the only realistic chance they have aside from putting a hit out on Duncan.
I'll keep that in mind next season as I read endless "Trade Manu!" and "Parker sux" and "Duncan is over the hill" threads in the Spurs forum like I read all this season.
Someway, Somehow Jet will be traded.
If you can't tell the difference I'm not going to bother trying to help you. The fringe among Dallas fans are the ones that don't boo Michael Finley.
so basically, the fans are partly to blame for the Mavs postseason failures?
being loyal and selling out every game for 5 years straight (unlike another team who couldnt sell out the WCF game 1) and then understandably getting frustrated when their team chokes up a 2-0 Finals lead then loses to the 8th seed?
baron davis and wade got theirs. they were supposed to, just like dirk was supposed to. when the goingg gets tough and all that. the position they play makes no difference, the star is supposed to step it up. duncan would have gotten 30-40 against the warriors by running to the post and getting fouled and whatnot (the fouling may have even helped contain davis conssidering the effect it had on lebron in game 2 of the finals, i believe). the fact that there are so few back to the basket players out there makes dirk's shirk all the more appalling (especially considering how another smaller player held him in check again in jackson). he should have expected ... , all off the mavs organization should have expected gs' attack since they'd done it in every game played. so dirk should have practiced some of those skills if only to keep things honest. big point guards are not the issue (see deron williams and lebron, since he guarded parker a bunch), it's players playing to their potential.
I'm sure Mark Cuban is pleased as punch with your money. He'll use it to wipe his ass later.
To paraphrase someone on ESPN's website: You Mavs fans sure love your Mavs. Until you don't.
The fringe are the ones even bothering to comment negatively about the Mavericks. The ones that boo Michael Finley are too worried right now about Ken Hamlin playing Free Safety to be bothered with giving a about the state of the Mavericks.
All of those guys have come up big for Dallas in the postseason as well. It's a checkered playoff history. Like I said, they seem to do better when they're the underdogs. They imposed a lot of pressure on themselves this season to atone for the Finals and the media anointed them as well after they began running away with the top seed. One thing we can probably both agree on is that after last year, Dallas could go 82-0 and nobody would feel comfortable calling the le for them. They can fly under the radar next year and that's for the best.
but they won't fly under the radar. EVERYONE and their mother will be tracking the mavs and i would expect the pressure to be monumental, regardless of their record. the spectre of "biggest choke/upset in the nba" would loom over everything.
True Championship teams dont care about being favorites or underdogs. They dont let any of that talk get to their heads. They just play their game. Not being able to handle that shows mental weakness.
They won't be the favorites to win anything, other than 50+ regular season games. Who here is picking them to beat San Antonio or Phoenix should they advance to meet them in the playoffs? Regardless of how many times they're on TNT or ABC, or who gets the most ink spilled over them, nobody is expecting playoff success from them next year. They will benefit from lowered expectations.
As for "regardless of record," if they go 44-38, do you think they'll be getting picked to do anything if they're a bottom-tier playoff seed? The regular season is overhyped in importance but how you do overall says something about what you're going to do in the postseason. The Knicks were an anomaly as an 8-seed in the lockout year, and Houston repeated as a 6-seed. But other than that, generally speaking, a top-four seed and home court for at least one round is pretty much a prerequisite for a le run.
Exactly. You and I could not be more in agreement. The average post-Cubanist Maverick fan is a bandwagonning idiot who goes to the games to be seen because it's currently the "thing to do" or, more appropriately, the "thing to tell people you do". While almost none of them would ever bother to go to a basketball message board during the off season, those people make up the very loud, opinionated, hyper-critical, and ultimately disloyal majority who talk around the water cooler and call Jennifer Engel's radio show calling for people to be traded or for coaches to be fired, usually after losses. Now that they've adopted a new "championship or bust" at ude, folks like that can put enormous pressure on the basketball team, whether you believe it or not.
Hopefully the Mavs trade Terry for Noah. That'd make it a lot easier for the Spurs to matchup. They can put Duncan on Noah, Oberto/Elson on Dirk, Bowen on Howard, Parker on Harris and Manu on whoever the SG is.
Sounds like a good trade.
Do it, Dallas
Hopefully the Mavs trade Terry for Noah. That'd make it a lot easier for the Spurs to matchup. They can put Duncan on Noah, Oberto/Elson on Dirk, Bowen on Howard, Parker on Harris and Manu on whoever the SG is.
Sounds like a good trade.
Do it, Dallas
Except Noah and Dirk would not be on the floor at the same time.
yeah, but regardless of their record, the pressure would remain high. and it's pressure, in guise of underdog/favorite, that seems to doom the mavs. it was the pressure of game three finals freethrows that kept dirk from hitting those shots, the pressure of finding a way to beat golden state that led to avery changing lineups before the ball was hoisted, and pressure to perform at his best that sank dirk's game six effort. the mavs play just fine as the favorites, otherwise they would not have made it to the western conference finals all those years against lesser-seeded teams. , they were the favorites against an undermanned suns team last year and made it through. but the suns games proved tougher than they needed to be when the pressure increased, and the cracks came full bore once the finals began. so if they come in as a number 4, the pressure remains the same even if they had been a number 1 or 8, because the issue remains can they win it all (champs or bust was their motto; plus, they've made it as far as any team can sans winning it all, so there is no other level to reach).
i couldnt agree more. although every city has those fans. i assume you live in Dallas too? i dont think they put on much added pressure. if they do, then its the Mavericks fault. these types of knee-jerk fans are just trying to go with the flow. when the Mavs are winning theyll ask me "do you think we have a chance at winning it all?" but if they are losing they distance themselves from the team and say "yeah they suck."
Noah is going to average 5 minutes per game in the playoffs? If you think that click the red X in the upper right.
Thanks.
Any update on whether or not the mavs will trade up?
Many cities have fans like that, and it's obviously going to be more common in multiple sport cities, where people can't devote all their time to every team. Don't fool yourself though: Dallas is notorious for this type of idiot sports fan, and that type of citizen. When the Cowboys were dominant people used to leave before halftime if they weren't scoring enough points.
And you are right: It is the fault of the players that feel the pressure. There's no excuse when you are being paid millions of dollars to crumble under the lights just because the calendar says April. But it happens. You develop a nasty fan base when people are allowed to do whatever they want and nobody ever says anything. At least they don't throw at opposing teams.
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