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Not quite - depending on which station you're listening to. In this case it was 620. At the beginning of the show, G & H said that, according to their contacts, Minney wants Amare and any deal would have to be built around Amare and that's it.
By saying "good teams get to the finals" you implied that the Cavs were better.
I think "good" teams at least win ONE game in the finals.
Not quite - depending on which station you're listening to. In this case it was 620. At the beginning of the show, G & H said that, according to their contacts, Minney wants Amare and any deal would have to be built around Amare and that's it.
True, true.
But I also think good teams can get out of the second round
No, that would be the BEST team. Again there are plenty of teams that have been great but not able to be the BEST.
1) Jazz-Stockton and Malone years
2) Sonics-Kemp and Payton years
3) Knicks-some of the Ewing years
4) Spurs last year-weren't a great team? they just caught some bad breaks
5) Trailblazers-some of the Drexler teams were awesome
6) I hate to say it but the '02 Kings were a pretty "great" team
7) 1993 Suns were a great team
8) 1991 Lakers were a great team
9) Mavs of the past 2 years
Do I really need to do this.
How bout the Indianapolis Colts. Peyton, Edge, Harrison, etc. They weren't a great team until last year when the won the entire thing?
, the Yankees have had great teams every year but haven't won a championship in years.
blah, blah, blah, blah.
That is true.
But the vast majority of fans, "experts" and whoever knew the best series w/ the two best teams was the Spurs and Suns. The common thought was whoever won that series (once DAL was axed) was going to win the le.
BTW, how many times has your franchise actually been out of the second round, ever?
So after the last week are we still going to be asked to feel sorry for KG?
5 times
Good teams, not great, great teams win les
So you have this notion that in order to be great you have to be the best, the championship team, if you will? You can be good at something but since you arent the best you can't be great at something?
You must be really disappointed with your life and will always be dissapointed if that is you definition of great.
Are the schools in Ohio or wherever the you live, really that bad that you can't see that one can be great but not the greatest?
The Cavs are a ty team but are they the worst team? The tiest team? No, i will give them some credit. Same difference. You can be a ty team but not the tiest team (i.e worst).
What does my personal life have to do with the "greatness" of a NBA team, if you will? Where did I ever say that I was "great"? If I was considered "great" then I probably wouldn't be arguing with your loser-ass on an internet board.So you have this notion that in order to be great you have to be the best, the championship team, if you will? You can be good at something but since you arent the best you can't be great at something?
You must be really disappointed with your life and will always be dissapointed if that is you definition of great.
Are the schools in Ohio or wherever the you live, really that bad that you can't see that one can be great but not the greatest?
The Cavs are a ty team but are they the worst team? The tiest team? No, i will give them some credit. Same difference. You can be a ty team but not the tiest team (i.e worst).
Likewise, the Suns are a good team, not great. But I have no qualms saying they're a good team.
I brought up your personal life as you cannot seem to know the definitions and meanings of "great". YOu are claiming greatness is only equivalent to being the absolute best or champion if you will. Some might consider you to be a great employee or you are great at your job or great at whatever but you might not be the best at that particular skill. Therefore, if that is your way of thinking if you aren't the best employee or the best poster or the best drawer, etc etc then you obviously will probably never be great at anything you do per your definition.
That was the point and you are obviously to ignorant to understand or unable to grasp this simple concept of what greatness means. I think it is quite laughable that you keep sticking to this "suns are only a good team" or those teams I posted are only "good teams" because they have never won a championship.
So I guess Lebron is not a great player in your book? Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, JOhn Stockton, KG, Paul Pierce, Patrick Ewing, Reggie Miller, Elgin Baylor, Dominique Wilkins, George Gervin, Nate Thurmond, Pete Maravich, etc etc, the list goes on and on. None of those guys are great players?
YOu are a freakin tool.
It would be more appropriate to list teams that never won les, not players who never won les. Much like the Suns, these players played on teams that would be considered "good", not "great".
Are you really going to beg this hard for a consolation "great" for your boys?
To Cleveland's credit they're a much better defensive team than the S0ns. Their defense was top 3 or top 5 in the league. Cleveland's lacking in the offensive department though. They're young though so they got plenty of time to work on that.
KG and NASH is good better than Amare and NASH
i would do it if I was Kerr
KG has lots left. Amare has iffy knee and is plain dumb at times.
I listed several great teams that never won les and now many players.. For some reason you are still sticking to this "good" only thing. Many of those players I listed, if not all, are listed as the 50 GREATEST NBA players toi have played the game. I guess the NBA should change it so it is 50 GOOD NBA players since not all of em can be can considered great according to you narrow mindedness?
I am not begging for anything regarding my team. I know they are a great team and so do thousands and thousands of other fans and non fans. I am trying to educate the uneducated. For some reason you seem to not want to discuss or try to persuade me as to how a team or player who doesn't win a championship cannot be considered great but only good.
We are basically talking about the pure definition of the world great as compared to good whether it applies to basketball, baseball, or just life in general.
Instead you just keep making those statements that in order to be great you have to win it all or be the best, which just shows how myopic and childish you are. I think it is amusing to me but I have wasted to much of my time trying to discuss this with someone who apparently has the knowledge and intellect comparable with my 3 yr old daughter with Down Syndrome. Its pointless.
Carry on, I am done here. Welcome to my ignore list.
The ball didnt roll the cavs way ... the cavs were very close in both games 3 and 4, so I wouldnt exactly just count them out. Despite being swept, it could have easily been 2-2 going into a game 5.
Another point I think alot of people overlooked is the fact Larry Hughes was injured. During the regular season he was their second leading scorer, had the second most minutes played, avged 13 shots a game, and he was a defensive presence on the perimeter that could have guarded the likes of Parker. While I doubt hed have changed the series much, I think with a healthy Hughes the finals go 6 - not exactly a pushover.
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You call me childish as you use your re ed kid as the butt of a joke. Have some class and try to stick to the topic of basketball without making personal attacks at me and insulting your daughter.I listed several great teams that never won les and now many players.. For some reason you are still sticking to this "good" only thing. Many of those players I listed, if not all, are listed as the 50 GREATEST NBA players toi have played the game. I guess the NBA should change it so it is 50 GOOD NBA players since not all of em can be can considered great according to you narrow mindedness?
I am not begging for anything regarding my team. I know they are a great team and so do thousands and thousands of other fans and non fans. I am trying to educate the uneducated. For some reason you seem to not want to discuss or try to persuade me as to how a team or player who doesn't win a championship cannot be considered great but only good.
We are basically talking about the pure definition of the world great as compared to good whether it applies to basketball, baseball, or just life in general.
Instead you just keep making those statements that in order to be great you have to win it all or be the best, which just shows how myopic and childish you are. I think it is amusing to me but I have wasted to much of my time trying to discuss this with someone who apparently has the knowledge and intellect comparable with my 3 yr old daughter with Down Syndrome. Its pointless.
Carry on, I am done here. Welcome to my ignore list.
I guess you and I have different definitions of "great". You subscribe to the new-age school of thought where everybody is a winner and every kid gets a trophy for participating. I guess I'm oldschool. If you want to be considered "great" you actually have to earn it. I look at your list of great teams and I see a list of good teams. Sorry. And once again, we're talking about teams, not individual players.
You just don't seem to get the picture that the S0ns can not put into the same category as the great teams. I'll give the S0ns credit where credit is due. They put on a good show for the kids. Big dunks and fancy passes. The kids eat it up. Just don't confuse entertaining with great.
The real question is, WHY THE DO YOU EVEN CARE?I listed several great teams that never won les and now many players.. For some reason you are still sticking to this "good" only thing. Many of those players I listed, if not all, are listed as the 50 GREATEST NBA players toi have played the game. I guess the NBA should change it so it is 50 GOOD NBA players since not all of em can be can considered great according to you narrow mindedness?
I am not begging for anything regarding my team. I know they are a great team and so do thousands and thousands of other fans and non fans. I am trying to educate the uneducated. For some reason you seem to not want to discuss or try to persuade me as to how a team or player who doesn't win a championship cannot be considered great but only good.
We are basically talking about the pure definition of the world great as compared to good whether it applies to basketball, baseball, or just life in general.
Instead you just keep making those statements that in order to be great you have to win it all or be the best, which just shows how myopic and childish you are. I think it is amusing to me but I have wasted to much of my time trying to discuss this with someone who apparently has the knowledge and intellect comparable with my 3 yr old daughter with Down Syndrome. Its pointless.
Carry on, I am done here. Welcome to my ignore list.
Instead you just keep making those statements that in order to be great you have to win it all or be the best, which just shows how myopic and childish you are. I think it is amusing to me but I have wasted to much of my time trying to discuss this with someone who apparently has the knowledge and intellect comparable with my 3 yr old daughter with Down Syndrome. Its pointless.
Carry on, I am done here. Welcome to my ignore list.Weak sauce
Sometimes when the truth hurts too much, the easiest thing to do is ignore it.
Nuggets>Cavs. All the teams the spurs played in playoffs>Cavs as a matter of fact.
And the Mavs choke more than Royce Gracie. Big deal.
Well since the Spurs didnt play them then......
Cavs>>>>>>>Mavs
Eh.. I started on the misinformed soul yesterday when I was bored at work. I am a glutton for punishment I guess but I really had nothing better to do.The real question is, WHY THE DO YOU EVEN CARE?
I really don't care which is why I am ignoring the ignorant kid. Would rather ignore him that keep up the useless banter.
LOL yeah that is pretty funny, huh? No not really.
See there is not point in carrying on with this person. Its like debating something with that spoiled little kid you went to grade school with who thinks he is correct about everything. The kind of kid that will argue till he is blue in the face about something that he really has no clue about but will maintain his stance out of pure stubbornness. I choose to ignore him because, really his posts don't hold any weight and I would rather just not read them.
Great points kps0001.
this is like saying the 06 Heat were a great team.
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