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    Makes sense. He wants some years.

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    goodbye Oberto! Thanks for all you did this season!

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    "I don't know how this changes things at all for us," Spurs general manager R.C. Buford said. "We have every hope that he'll continue to be a part of our team."
    He sounds surprised.

    Presti where are you?!?!?!

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    I dont blame the guy but must admit Im a bit suprised. Regardless, lets see what kind of offers he gets, we can always match whatever offer he gets. If not, see ya; he isnt worth crazy money.

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    He sounds surprised.
    He doesn't sound anything.

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    Yeah, I'm surprised too. Maybe he's OK with $/year, but he just wants more years. Hope he's on the club next year, but if not, guess Butler better be ready for some more minutes.

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    He doesn't sound anything.
    Sure he does. He sounds like he didn't expect this.

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    Sure he does. He sounds like he didn't expect this.
    There is no sound.

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    Are you always such a massive tool?

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    lol

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    Do you always hear sounds when there are none?

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    If someone signs a contract in the middle of the forest...

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    oberto sucks

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    It's a Buddhist koan: What is the sound of an NBA player exercising his option to become a free agent?

    I still think he ends up back with the Spurs... just give him more years at the same or close to money. Nobody is going to drive his market value to something the Spurs can't afford. Who out there is going to spend more than 1/2 of the MLE on a 32 year old center who averages 4 and 4?

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    It's a Buddhist koan: What is the sound of an NBA player exercising his option to become a free agent?

    I still think he ends up back with the Spurs... just give him more years at the same or close to money. Nobody is going to drive his market value to something the Spurs can't afford. Who out there is going to spend more than 1/2 of the MLE on a 32 year old center who averages 4 and 4?
    I believe you're right - it's for an extension.

    Either that, or he's taken the Scola situation badly to heart.

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    Do you always hear sounds when there are none?
    Yeah, it's quite possible that he made that comment off-the-cuff or rather matter-of-factly. No reason to read anything into it in print.

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    Either that, or he's taken the Scola situation badly to heart.
    You are really reading way too much into everything here.

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    Oberto not taking his player option is pretty bad news for the Spurs. Depending on how in love the Spurs are with The 2008 Plan, I could see the Spurs losing Oberto. And after what he did in the playoffs, it'd actually be a pretty devastating blow to the team.

    Now all a team has to do to really hurt the Spurs is to offer Oberto something outrageous. Even the full MLE for two years makes the Spurs decide whether to keep Oberto and scrap The 2008 Plan, or go with Elson and continue The 2008 Plan.

    It sounds like a no-brainer to keep Oberto, but this front office loves opening up cap space and has done so over re-signing some pretty quality players (Speedy, SJax, not to mention trading first round draft picks). If another team forces the Spurs to pick either cap space or Oberto, I don't think it's a slam dunk that the Spurs pick Oberto. Knowing the front office, they have the image of Elton Brand dancing in their heads for the 2008-'09 season.

    Matching something like a two-year $11M or even a three-year $17M offer for Oberto isn't automatic, to say the least.

    And I highly doubt Oberto will give the Spurs some sort of Manu/winning discount. He almost signed with the Memphis Grizzlies before the Spurs upped their offer. If he was willing to sign with the Grizzlies then, he'd be willing to go anywhere now that he has to bank in on his last pay day.

    Bottomline is this could turn into an interesting situation if a team wants to overpay Oberto (even with a shorter contract). Plus there are enough teams out there who'd love to put the Spurs in a tough spot and could use Oberto (Dallas, Phoenix, Chicago, etc.).

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    He was in there for almost the entire 4th quarter of Game 4 (instead of Horry). Good point.

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    Matching something like a two-year $11M or even a three-year $17M offer for Oberto isn't automatic, to say the least.
    If it comes to that, I have to think Fab is gone. I'd love to keep him, even for a little more money, but he is not greater than the Plan. No one is greater than the Plan. All hail the Plan!

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    As much as I like Oberto and appreciate his performance during the playoffs when it counted the most, he does not deserve a major raise. Elson makes more at the moment, so a reasonable raise and a couple of years would be a no-brainer. But if he's looking to cash in big or a long deal, the Spurs should just let him walk and find another center to stick in the rotation.

    I hope it all works out and he plays in SA next year.

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    Matching something like a two-year $11M or even a three-year $17M offer for Oberto isn't automatic, to say the least.
    I think $11 is too much for Oberto and I'd not blame the Spurs to not match

    I want Oberto to stay and I think a $8 for 2yrs is a fair deal. Elson got $6 for 2

    The Spurs don't need to use the MLE on him, do they?

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    As valuable as he's been, if some other team wants to overpay for him, c'est la vie. The Spurs' organization has always been pretty astute when it comes to knowing when to hold 'em and knowing when to fold 'em. How'd that Nazr Mohammed do when he took the money and ran, anyway?

    For all of you crying about us losing S-Jax, Claxton, Malik Rose, etc. over the years, try to remember we've won as many championships without those guys as we did with them. I'm not trying to minimize the role those people played, I'm simply pointing out the reality of the situation, which is that role players come and go. The core of the team is there, and if we lose Oberto, I think we can survive it.

    You would think 4 championships would inspire some confidence in the Spurs front office, no?

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    The Spurs don't need to use the MLE on him, do they?
    No. I actually see the Spurs trying to use the early Bird exception to overpay Oberto for one season -- equal to the full midlevel. Oberto can take it or leave it.

    I do like Oberto, but I kind of see him like AJ -- overrated because he was the first competent player in his position after years of suck. Losing him would hurt, but it wouldn't make a repeat impossible.

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    I would let Oberto walk and stick to the 08 plan if he wants a bigger deal than the Spurs are willing to give.

    Although Oberto is a key component to our team, he is not vital.

    I suppose this might throw a wrench into our draft scenarios.

    Do the Spurs now go for a PF/C in the draft?

    To the Spurs give the reigns to Jackie Butler?

    Or do the Spurs fold their 08 plan and give into Oberto?

    I highly doubt the latter will reign supreme.

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