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    The Spurs know the college talent is much better this year. The Spurs went out and hired George Felton for the purpose of evaluating domestic talent. I'd say the chances of the Spurs going with a college player is greater than 50-50.
    Given the high 2nd they have it's not hard to see that as the reason.

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    Marcus - if you're so het on them drafting an international, who do you think it'll be?

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    The actual guaranteed money committed to the player. They can structure the contract for the 33rd pick pretty much however they want. With the 1st round pick they don't have the option.
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    what?

    You have to actually pay a second rounder. The number I gave was for the least a second rounder could make that season if signed this summer.

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    Given the troubles with Fernandez and a possible future of good European players getting priced out of late first round contracts, it'd be smarter to take the European (whoever he is) with the 33 and the American (whoever he is) with the 28.

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    Marcus - if you're so het on them drafting an international, who do you think it'll be?
    On talent, I think Fernandez then Belinelli. If neither are available, Splitter would make a lot of sense for them. Gasol is another, perhaps. Then again they may leave us with another head scratcher like Mahinmi in '05 (the Brazilian kid Silva whatshisname this time).

    But I see a trade coming down the pike. My guess is the Spurs deal it to a team for a future 1st.

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    Again--

    what?

    You have to actually pay a second rounder. The number I gave was for the least a second rounder could make that season if signed this summer.
    How many guaranteed years do you have to give a second round draft pick?

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    How many guaranteed years do you have to give a second round draft pick?
    So the Spurs would waive the second rounder after one year? Is that the plan? That would save $240,000

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    So the Spurs would waive the second rounder after one year? Is that the plan?
    If he's unworthy. Unfortunately you can't do that with a 1st without paying for more than the 1st season.

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    So your conclusion is the Spurs want to save the $400k no matter what.

    Why are we talking about re-signing Oberto then?

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    So your conclusion is the Spurs want to save the $400k no matter what.

    Why are we talking about re-signing Oberto then?
    My conclusion is that the Spurs will go with the most cost-effective solution given the situation. They know how to structure a 2nd round pick's contract so as to minimize the obligation yet give them the opportunity to own the player's full Bird Rights. They won't be bringing in two rookies next season. #33 it is.

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    ok marcus just curious..not trying to be a ..but i dont get why u made this thread when u posted all of those domestic draft prospect threads?? i mean u had me going for a minute that the spurs were actually considering drafting a college kid at 28...but now ur telling us that were going international again...damnit! i knew reading all of those domestic threads were too good to be true

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    My conclusion is that the Spurs will go with the most cost-effective solution given the situation. They know how to structure a 2nd round pick's contract so as to minimize the obligation yet give them the opportunity to own the player's full Bird Rights. They won't be bringing in two rookies next season. #33 it is.
    That's pretty much what I concluded awhile ago, but when have we ever guessed a Spurs pick?

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    not trying to be a
    failure.

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    hey i tried

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    the salary of a no.28 pick will not hurt the team basing on last year draft the pick no.28 will make less than 1,000,000 $ the first and the second year.

    So it will depends on the workouts they had and on the roster spots available but IMO nothing is done yet

    The FO have many options but probably they learn from the past drafts( barbosa , monta ellis or david lee were drafted after mahinmi and have done some good things ...)

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    the salary of a no.28 pick will not hurt the team basing on last year draft the pick no.28 will make less than 1,000,000 $ the first and the second year.

    So it will depends on the workouts they had and on the roster spots available but IMO nothing is done yet

    The FO have many options but probably they learn from the past drafts( barbosa , monta ellis or david lee were drafted after mahinmi and have done some good things ...)
    That may be $1 mil too much if the player sucks. They can structure the 33rd's pick to avoid that scenario.

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    That may be $1 mil too much if the player sucks. They can structure the 33rd's pick to avoid that scenario.
    For example $1 mil for a dudley type of player wouldn't sucks IMO
    as for some guys in this draft who could be drafted by the spurs but we'll see

    If the team wants to save some dollars for 08' the draft isn't a problem , this year FA with oberto who wants a good contrat , the Me( will they use it ? for how many years if they want a player like nocioni...) were major factors than the draft day

    the only point i agree is the roster spots , the team don't have a lot of roster spots available .....

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    Don't forget that they could very well bring Mahinmi in next season. So you'ld already have one rookie at a #28 pick's salary (albeit from the '05 scale) joining the club. Should they indeed use the #33 on a domestic player there's another rookie. Then they'll likely bring back James White. It makes way too much sense for the Spurs to deal the #28 or use it on a player likely to play abroad for a while than for them to use it and bring the player in.

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    That may be $1 mil too much if the player sucks. They can structure the 33rd's pick to avoid that scenario.
    What happens when Fernandez, Splitter, and Belinelli are all off the board? Is Gasol or Fesenko or Barac really worth three years of guaranteed money? Nevermind when the Spurs would have to dole out the $$, the #28 pick is a guaranteed investment in the future, so are any of those guys worth it?

    Obviously, that's something for the Spurs FO to decide. I DO think they'll factor the cap and roster situation into the draft this year, but ultimately I think they grab the guy they really want if he's available...no matter what position he plays and no matter where he currently plays.

    If the Spurs like Pruitt at #28, they grab him...no doubt in my mind.

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    Nah, they deal the pick if they can't find an international they like. Of course, they could use it on the Brazilian (Silva) ala Mahinmi in '05.

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    Look at it this way, they have White and Butler to bring back if they so choose. Those two are basically draft picks for all intents and purposes. And they know a lot about them by now. Then you add to that whoever they pick at #33 and Mahinmi and that's 4 relatively inexperienced players on next season's roster. In addition that gives you a point guard prospect, a swingman prospect and two bigmen prospects. I just don't see them going much further with respect to young talent. Assuming that Mahinmi takes Ely's spot from last season and the #33 pick is used on a point who replaces Udrih, there's not that much room for new talent.

    As for the possibility of Oberto leaving, the Spurs could very well bring Scola over if that happens.

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    Why do people keep assuming Finley is going to opt out? He doesnt need any more money. Cuban owes him 17 million next season.

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    Why do people keep assuming Finley is going to opt out? He doesnt need any more money. Cuban owes him 17 million next season.
    Maybe he wants more years. Now would be the summer to get that.

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    here is the players we dont know yet if they will be spurs next year

    mahinmi , scola , udrih , bonner , ely , vaughn
    i didn't mention oberto because i think he will be there next season

    with udrih , bonner , ely and vaughn we have 4 players that could gone : udrih and ely appears to left the team this summer.

    the spurs want to resign vaughn and i don't know what they will do with bonner

    mahinmi had an injury and he will not played the spurs summer league so it can change the FO plans
    For Scola i don't know a lot of rumors : trade for a pick , stay in europe , come in SA

    with all those not clear situaitons we could just say that the Spurs Fo know what they want and will act in order to fill their plans during draft day

    what i mean is that it could be more roster spot available than we think and if the Spurs can have a player they like they wouldn't pass on him IMO

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    Why would they replace any of the potential spots with a rookie? Aren't they trying to win a championship?

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