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    The Spurs are actually really good with both Brent and Devin in there together with Beno.

    This lineup doest nottest stinketh:
    Beno, Brent, Devin, Rose, Rasho.

    Talk about getting the ball up court in .6 seconds, watch Devin and Brent leak out and run the wings after Rasho and Leaky get the ball to Beno.

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    I like that lineup, as well as that same one but Manu exchanged for Brent. Beno/Devin have a great chemistry on the court.

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    In blowouts, when the Spurs reserves are getting garbage minutes, Barry should be looking for his shot, the go to guy, make them or not, until he gets it out of his system.

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    I think he is pressing by the pressure being applied by his coach. Pop can say anything he wants, but yanking him and keeping him on the bench speaks much louder. Either is going to be there at playoff time or not. If he is, then he should be playing now. If not, fine. But you cannot expect him to play sproradic minutes, usually with a second unit, knowing that additional playing time depends on making shots and then not expect him to feel the pressure to not miss. I will say again, lack of defense did NOT knock the Spurs out of the playoffs last year.

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    Well Barry only got his minutes cut back in the last few games. He played over 20 minutes a game for the first 14 games of the season and was the first swingman off the bench. But he still wasn't knocking down shots.

    And with Devin playing well in his limited minutes, you have to reward Devin with playing time.

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    I just hope Barry does not end up on Pop's dog house like Malik last year.

    I think it won't happen but you never know.

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    I don't think it is about rewarding anyone for anything. It has always been about preparing for the playoffs. It is a chicken and egg thing. Did Brent start to drop off first or did the minutes or was it simultaneous. Pop is going to ruin this guy, and it will be a shame. Barry is not a role player, and if the Spurs thought they could bring him in to sit on the bench and drop some miracle threes, it aint goin happen. Bowen can sit and come in and play defense, but it is not the same with a shooter.

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    Can't be sure... It worked for Steve Kerr, after all.

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    Did Brent start to drop off first or did the minutes or was it simultaneous.
    Again, Barry's minutes were only really cut back over the last few games (really majorly in just in the last two). He's shooting 29 percent from 3 on the season.

    This is not on Pop -- it's on Barry.

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    Big Vee, Pop rewards current behavior (including at ude) and results. I don't think Pop views Brent as just a shooter but as a "basketball" player with a high BBall IQ. Devin wasn't getting major minutes before 5 games ago against Utah. That's when the minutes changed in Devin's favor. Brent's lack of scoring and softer perimeter D coinciding with Devin giving Pop a choice for improvement is when the change was made. Very recent stuff.

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    Good points, Kori.

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    I hear you, I just don't agree. I don't see Brown's defense as that much better than Barry's. And I don't think a few games long enough for a fair analysis. Watch Barry's body language....he is becoming Hedo before our eyes. What is the common denominator for every guy that has gone through this? i.e. Rose, Barry, Smith, Horry, Hedo....Pop. It is not on Barry. You simply cannot produce under a microscope. Barry has long since passed the point of being motivated by internal compe ion. If this keeps on for much longer he will be a bust for the season. And then, when the real season starts, and the play is different and the ref's swallow their whistles in the fourth quarter, a discouraged and non-confident Barry will be asked to save the day when the offense is bogged down.

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    I don't see Brown's defense as that much better than Barry's
    I guess we'll just disagree on that part.

    And I don't think a few games long enough for a fair analysis.

    How many games should the Spurs have waited? He was shooting 30 percent from 3 after 15 games -- that's about 1/5 of the season.

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    barry will break out...I have faith.

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    You simply cannot produce under a microscope.
    Simply being in the NBA puts you under a microscope. Devin has definitely been under the same microscope and he's performing. Hedo was accomodated last season because there simply was no alternative.

    This season there is.

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    barry will break out...I have faith.
    Starting with the Bulls tonight. 5 for 5 from 3 point land mark my words.

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    I hear you, I just don't agree. I don't see Brown's defense as that much better than Barry's. And I don't think a few games long enough for a fair analysis. Watch Barry's body language....he is becoming Hedo before our eyes. What is the common denominator for every guy that has gone through this? i.e. Rose, Barry, Smith, Horry, Hedo....Pop. It is not on Barry. You simply cannot produce under a microscope. Barry has long since passed the point of being motivated by internal compe ion. If this keeps on for much longer he will be a bust for the season. And then, when the real season starts, and the play is different and the ref's swallow their whistles in the fourth quarter, a discouraged and non-confident Barry will be asked to save the day when the offense is bogged down.
    So should he get more minutes or first minutes over a better player like Hedo over Gino? Brown is a much better defender than Barry. I think he will get out of his slump after a while. Beno is playing well and so is Brown. I don't mind having these kind of problems.

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    Well I guess the way I look at it is: If you are 3-12 maybe you should try something different. When you are 12-3 and you gave a proven veteran a $22 million contract you might want to wait a little longer. 10 year stats mean a bunch. I doubt if you signed a lifetime .300 hitter during the off season and after 30 games he was hitting .220 you would pull him out of the line-up. I have great respect for your knowledge of this game, but I totally disagree about this.

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    Kind of funny,I had just told my son if I want someone to make free throws at end of the game I want BARRY to be that player. He can miss 3ptrs. just don't miss free thows. BARRY will be back.

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    How long should we wait?

    Til we fall behind Dallas?

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    How long should we wait?

    Til we fall behind Dallas?
    You honestly feel that if Barry had more minutes the team will fall out of first place?

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    Steve Kerr struggled off and on in his stints with the Spurs. He went out on a high note and Barry can too.

    Devin's just been a beast lately, though.

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    I think Barry will come out of the slump very soon and I think he's a vital cog in the Spurs machine this year. But I just don't see any fault in cutting back his minutes a little bit when he can't hit a shot to save his life and Devin is coming on strong on both ends of the court.

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    Okay, I'm done. I have just seen too many guys come to the Spurs and for whatever reason Pop gets down on them in a hurry....I just hate seeing it happening to Barry.

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    The list you made of guys Pop "put down" didn't make much sense. The only one on the list that was really valid was Malik.

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