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    I hope Oberto and his agent don't go to high when it comes to the numbers. I don't think the Spurs will pay too much for him.
    With Scola's buyout at a low point, Mahinmi available to join the team at any time, Butler poised for a breakout year in his second year with this team, and so on and so forth....I guarantee they won't pay too much for him.

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    [B] Oberto's deal is already done and his agent & the Spurs are just dancing for the audience. That's why he opted out BEFORE the draft. The Spurs center duo will be back.
    Finley's waiting until after the draft to declare seems to mean that he wants more than the Spurs are willing to pay/extend him. If I'm correct he's going the way of Claxton and Jackson and looking at the $$$ now that he has a ring. Go back to Stevey Boy and watch the Spurs on TV again next season! The Spurs will draft a replacement for him and let Barry play out his contract next year as the started. No loss there.

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    In Ole newspaper they today said Oberto is wanting 8M 3y.-

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    [B] Oberto's deal is already done and his agent & the Spurs are just dancing for the audience. That's why he opted out BEFORE the draft. The Spurs center duo will be back.
    Finley's waiting until after the draft to declare seems to mean that he wants more than the Spurs are willing to pay/extend him. If I'm correct he's going the way of Claxton and Jackson and looking at the $$$ now that he has a ring. Go back to Stevey Boy and watch the Spurs on TV again next season! The Spurs will draft a replacement for him and let Barry play out his contract next year as the started. No loss there.
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72533

    Man, Finley haters kill me.


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    In Ole newspaper they today said Oberto is wanting 8M 3y.-

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    Wow, if that's all he wants, sign the guy and get it over with.

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    First let me say that I disagree the Spurs will pay over $4M and over 3yrs to keep Oberto...but then again, neither you or I really know what they'll do.

    And if someone throws $20M at him, whether it's the Mavs or not, I think he'd find it hard NOT to sign that offer sheet and leave it in the hands of the Spurs. That way, he can always say that the Spurs had the opportunity to match, but didn't...and place the onus on them.

    About the specific teams...

    Bulls do need a low-post threat, but they also need post players in general (Sweetney and Brown are FAs). Skiles and the GM are also fond of "character" and "team" guys. I'm just saying it's possible.

    Accidentally threw the Grizz in there because of the report two summers ago that West liked Oberto...but West is gone from Memphis...my bad.

    Raptors have one legitimate center (Nesterovic) and an affinity for international players. Colangelo was willing to take on Nesterovic's big contract, so what makes you think he won't overpay for a role guy like Oberto?

    And there are probably a few other teams that will enter the bidding that we're not considering...
    Not to mention that I personally suspect that SA will be reluctant to accept anything that doesn't have a team option in summer 08. They might match up to the MLE (from early bird rights), but they will want to be able to maximize their cap space in 08. The other important factor will be the draft. If they come out with a big (or even 2, working on best player available theory), they might just be in a bit of a roster crunch. Certainly that would jeopardize the return of Bonner, Oberto, or both (especially if Mahnimi comes over)...

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    McDyess hands down....plus his stock is a little lower just b/c of what Oberto did at the end of the season, but let's not forget how bad Oberto had been. McDyess has so much talent and a good jumper...no brainer IMO
    refresh our memory... when was oberto bad? when he wasn't playing?

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    In Ole newspaper they today said Oberto is wanting 8M 3y.-

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    Cool. My guess was he'd get offered between 3 years/9M and 3 years/11M from the Spurs.

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    Good. Hopefully another team won't throw a wrench into the works.

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    In Ole newspaper they today said Oberto is wanting 8M 3y.-

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    http://www.ole.com.ar/notas/2007/06/27/01446076.html

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    Good. Hopefully another team won't throw a wrench into the works.

    Yeah that's my fear too. "3-year, $8 million sounds great. I love playing here. I love playing with Manu. Lets get it done. Wow, Dallas is offering 4-year, $16 million??? Well, it wasn't THAT much fun playing in SA."

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    Yeah that's my fear too. "3-year, $8 million sounds great. I love playing here. I love playing with Manu. Lets get it done. Wow, Dallas is offering 4-year, $16 million??? Well, it wasn't THAT much fun playing in SA."
    Very likely...

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    With Scola's buyout at a low point, Mahinmi available to join the team at any time, Butler poised for a breakout year in his second year with this team, and so on and so forth....I guarantee they won't pay too much for him.
    Will Mahinmi be able to play next season with us I heard he has a pretty bad injury I hop that if Oberto does leave the Spurs he does not go to a compe ive team like the mavs the last thing we need is Oberto guarding Duncan well in the playoffs

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    Finley's waiting until after the draft to declare seems to mean that he wants more than the Spurs are willing to pay/extend him. If I'm correct he's going the way of Claxton and Jackson and looking at the $$$ now that he has a ring. Go back to Stevey Boy and watch the Spurs on TV again next season! The Spurs will draft a replacement for him and let Barry play out his contract next year as the started. No loss there.
    Rock solid post -- excellent reasoning and unassailable logic.

    I do see one tiny problem, however.

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    Will Mahinmi be able to play next season with us I heard he has a pretty bad injury I hop that if Oberto does leave the Spurs he does not go to a compe ive team like the mavs the last thing we need is Oberto guarding Duncan well in the playoffs
    Where did you hear it was a pretty bad injury? Was there an update?

    I thought he'd likely be out 6-8 weeks or so.

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    Oberto will only go to another legit contender (remember the fuss that was put up around possible trades?), and nearly all of them have rotation/$ issues large enough to preclude the idea of simply trying to screw with the Spurs.

    I believe that he opted out to gain more stability, and that it was not a move that surprised the Spurs. I don't think he's going to quibble too much over $ if he can win. Maybe I'll be wrong, but if that is the case, he's welcome to walk through the open door, and I'll thank him politely on his way out for his contributions, wish him well and start deciding how to replace him.

    This is really a win-win situation, as far as I'm concerned.

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    Obert may have no intention of going anywhere else," BUT
    neither did Steven Jackson/SJ or his agent got a little bit greedy
    and Pop & RC said Bye-Bye

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    Obert may have no intention of going anywhere else," BUT
    neither did Steven Jackson/SJ or his agent got a little bit greedy
    and Pop & RC said Bye-Bye

    Well, personally, I believed then and now that SJax was more interested in the $ than the Spurs. Which is fine. I didn't think then and I don't think now that you should cripple yourself for a mediocre player (which he was at the time).

    I tend to believe that Oberto is more interested in the Spurs than the $. Could he or his agent by lying? Yeah, and maybe someone makes an offer and the $signs flash before his eyes.

    I just doubt it. Maybe I'll be wrong - in which case, Spurs replace him.

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    His agent is lying and doing his job well.

    I like Oberto, a lot. I really do. But if he s around and ends up on his ass for a team gettng 7 mins per, then you deserve it.

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    Oberto is not SJackson.

    Oberto is intelligent, SJax . . . well not so intelligent.

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    I seriously doubt we can bank on facing a 2008 Finals opponent as wimpy as Cleveland was. Fabs was able to make some shots, but standing under the hoop, catching a pass and laying it in from one foot may not happen as often in '08.

    Also on D, playing an opponent with a coach who learned offense from other then Popavich will be a much greater challenge. I say the Spurs keep up the search for a long three and if Fabs signs for a resonable amount and years, fine. If not, perhaps a much better replacement can be found.
    That's a good observation but at the same time neither Rasho, Nazr or Elson could sneak down low to get those easy baskets, none of those guys really utilized Tim's talents the way Oberto does. Oberto's basketball IQ just fits in nicely with what the Spurs do on offense, and he has now figured out how to play within Tony's game. The other factor is how well Oberto has learned the defense, not a shot blocker, but he moves his feet well, and as far as I could tell was always there for the help defense especially in the playoffs.

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    He's the best starting 5 the Spurs have had since DRob retired. He may also continue to be the least expensive one.

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    He's the best starting 5 the Spurs have had since DRob retired. He may also continue to be the least expensive one.
    Let's hope you're right on the last sentence.

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    He's the best starting 5 the Spurs have had since DRob retired.
    Faint praise.

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    If someone throws the bank at him, then good for him. I hope he has success. If he takes a pay hike to stay with the Spurs, it's money well earned IMO.

    And I thought Jack actually took less money to go to Atlanta. Oberto has a history of good decisions to make that look unlikely.

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